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    @Bones dirty Irish fluffybunny

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    @Crucial this can make or break the Bokke. Ideal preparation for WC 2023.

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    @antipodean he ended Senatla season. But his reaction to the ref was much worse then the incident.

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    @antipodean said in 2022 NH tour, not ABs:

    @Bones dirty Irish fluffybunny

    Roid rage.

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    @Bones said in 2022 NH tour, not ABs:

    @Derm-McCrum said in 2022 NH tour, not ABs:

    Banned: Aki

    I didn't know that so went and had a look. Farce. He gets mitigation and the opportunity to reduce his sentence, despite having been in front of the judiciary for similar conduct the year before, as well as 2 years before that.

    At least he's sorry though.

    Dave Mervyn  /  Sep 28, 2022

    Aki Banned For Eight Weeks

    Aki Banned For Eight Weeks

    Also got aggravating factors applied for previous which added two weeks back on
    10 was reduced to 6 then back up to 8

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    Just watched the clip and from that it is obvious that players/coaches and laws and still not singing from the same book. Aki argues that he can’t clean out any other way but that is the whole point. If you can’t, you don’t. There is no right to clean out if someone is over the ball only a right to try to do so legally.
    Interesting that he was charged under failure to bind which is good but his binding attempt is no different to others actions all the time. I maintain that WR have left the option for this type of thing to happen by not enforcing proper binding and punishing afterwards only when head contact happens is not preventative

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    @Crucial he didn't argue he demanded. Sexton do the same.

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    @MiketheSnow he'll watch tomorrow.

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    @OomPB said in 2022 NH tour, not ABs:

    @Crucial he didn't argue he demanded. Sexton do the same.

    Learning from the best 😄

    Sexton really is a whiny prick.

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    @Bones said in 2022 NH tour, not ABs:

    @Derm-McCrum said in 2022 NH tour, not ABs:

    Banned: Aki

    I didn't know that so went and had a look. Farce. He gets mitigation and the opportunity to reduce his sentence, despite having been in front of the judiciary for similar conduct the year before, as well as 2 years before that.

    At least he's sorry though.

    Dave Mervyn  /  Sep 28, 2022

    Aki Banned For Eight Weeks

    Aki Banned For Eight Weeks

    Yes - there's a graphic somewhere from URC showing the rationale for his ban, including mitigation, but also taking into account his previous red cards.

    "“These mitigating factors warranted a reduction in the sanction of four weeks. The player’s previous suspensions for red cards in 2019 and 2021 for foul play involving head contact, as well as his suspension and warning for previous conduct relating to interactions with referees, were considered aggravating factors, which the judicial officer decided warranted a further two weeks of sanction."

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    @Derm-McCrum @Crucial

    Thanks guys for assuming I'm so embedded in TSF culture that I didn't even read the article I posted and cited. It means a lot.

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    @Bones said in 2022 NH tour, not ABs:

    He gets mitigation and the opportunity to reduce his sentence, despite having been in front of the judiciary for similar conduct the year before, as well as 2 years before that.

    This is what I responded to in my case. Mitigation is on the event and its severity alongside the player's response. Track record is then assessed against the sanction and a further sanction is applied if warranted. That's the process. As with all cases, an opportunity to reduce the length of the agreed ban if the guilty party undergoes training is included. In this instance, it's unlikely to make any difference as Aki has not been selected for the test squad and would not be ready for the third test.

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    @Derm-McCrum I thought he wasn't selected due to being banned? Mitigation for being sorry should be extremely rare when you're in front of the judiciary on your 3rd strike.

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    'Ikale Tahi now down two players as Scarlets season continues to implode after this morning flogging courtesy of Connacht

    Oct 19, 2022

    Sam Lousi disciplinary verdict

    Sam Lousi disciplinary verdict

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    Vaea Fifita disciplinary verdict

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    @Bones said in 2022 NH tour, not ABs:

    @Derm-McCrum I thought he wasn't selected due to being banned? Mitigation for being sorry should be extremely rare when you're in front of the judiciary on your 3rd strike.

    I quite agree.

    You're right, he wasn't selected because he was banned. In theory, that doesn't stop Farrell bringing him in for 3rd test vs Australia if Aki were to do the rehab training, but he still would have no prep time so Farrell won't.

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    @Daffy-Jaffy said in 2022 NH tour, not ABs:

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    WTF, were they trying to create the hardest to read fixtures list?

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    @Nepia I know right, I thought that when I posted it. OK on my laptop but awful on a phone. Some tasty fixtures next weekend though. Ire v SA especially.

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    https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/63413623?at_medium=RSS&at_campaign=KARANGA

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    Springbok squads
    Springbok squad:

    Props: Thomas du Toit (Cell C Sharks), Steven Kitshoff (DHL Stormers), Vincent Koch (unattached), Frans Malherbe (DHL Stormers), Ox Nche (Cell C Sharks), Trevor Nyakane (Racing 92)

    Hookers: Malcolm Marx (Kubota Spears), Bongi Mbonambi (Cell C Sharks)

    Locks: Lood de Jager (Wild Knights), Eben Etzebeth (Cell C Sharks), Jason Jenkins (Leinster), Salmaan Moerat, Marvin Orie (both DHL Stormers)

    Loose forwards: Pieter-Steph du Toit (Toyota Verblitz), Siya Kolisi (Cell C Sharks), Evan Roos (DHL Stormers), Kwagga Smith (Shizuoka Blue Revs), Marco van Staden (Vodacom Bulls), Jasper Wiese (Leicester Tigers)

    Utility forwards: Deon Fourie (DHL Stormers), Franco Mostert (Honda Heat)

    Scrumhalves: Faf de Klerk (Canon Eagles), Jaden Hendrikse (Cell C Sharks), Cobus Reinach (Montpellier)

    Flyhalves: Manie Libbok, Damian Willemse (both DHL Stormers)

    Centres: Damian de Allende (Wild Knights), Andre Esterhuizen (Harlequins), Jesse Kriel (Canon Eagles)

    Outside backs: Willie le Roux (Toyota Verblitz), Makazole Mapimpi (Cell C Sharks), Sbu Nkosi (Vodacom Bulls)

    Utility backs: Kurt-Lee Arendse (Vodacom Bulls), Cheslin Kolbe (Toulon), Sacha Feinberg-Mngomezulu (DHL Stormers)

    SA ‘A’ squad:

    Forwards: Simphiwe Matanzima (Vodacom Bulls), Ntuthuko Mchunu (Cell C Sharks), Sazi Sandi (DHL Stormers), Mornay Smith (Vodacom Bulls), Jan-Hendrik Wessels (Vodacom Bulls), Joseph Dweba (DHL Stormers), Andre-Hugo Venter (DHL Stormers), Ruan Nortje (Vodacom Bulls), Phepsi Buthelezi (Cell C Sharks), Sikhumbuzo Notshe (Cell C Sharks).

    Backs: Herschel Jantjies (DHL Stormers), Sanele Nohamba (Emirates Lions), Grant Williams (Cell C Sharks), Johan Goosen (Vodacom Bulls), Gianni Lombard (Emirates Lions), Aphelele Fassi (Cell C Sharks), Cornal Hendricks (Vodacom Bulls), Suleiman Hartzenberg (DHL Stormers), Henco van Wyk (Emirates Lions).

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