Hadlee-Chappell ODI 1.0 + 2.0 + dead rubber
-
@canefan said in Hadlee-Chappell ODI 1.0:
@ACT-Crusader said in Hadlee-Chappell ODI 1.0:
@No-Quarter said in Hadlee-Chappell ODI 1.0:
you'd expect better from Kane
We’ve been saying that a fair bit in recent times.
It’s as if Kane bought Santner on when OZ were on the ropes to try and get through some overs. Santner got exposed at the end big time.
The shame is that Ferg took a bit to get going too. I would’ve given a few more overs to Neesh.
That was never on. Our score was so low the only way we were going to win was to bowl them out. Kane and Stead's faith in Bracewell and Santner is exasperating.
We should have pushed all in and tried to knock them outUnfortunately with Kane as captain and Stead as coach that was never going to happen. They simply aren't built to be that attacking.
-
@KiwiMurph said in Hadlee-Chappell ODI 1.0:
@canefan said in Hadlee-Chappell ODI 1.0:
@ACT-Crusader said in Hadlee-Chappell ODI 1.0:
@No-Quarter said in Hadlee-Chappell ODI 1.0:
you'd expect better from Kane
We’ve been saying that a fair bit in recent times.
It’s as if Kane bought Santner on when OZ were on the ropes to try and get through some overs. Santner got exposed at the end big time.
The shame is that Ferg took a bit to get going too. I would’ve given a few more overs to Neesh.
That was never on. Our score was so low the only way we were going to win was to bowl them out. Kane and Stead's faith in Bracewell and Santner is exasperating.
We should have pushed all in and tried to knock them outUnfortunately with Kane as captain and Stead as coach that was never going to happen. They simply aren't built to be that attacking.
What I'd give for bazball....
-
@ACT-Crusader said in Hadlee-Chappell ODI 1.0:
@No-Quarter said in Hadlee-Chappell ODI 1.0:
you'd expect better from Kane
We’ve been saying that a fair bit in recent times.
It’s as if Kane bought Santner on when OZ were on the ropes to try and get through some overs. Santner got exposed at the end big time.
The shame is that Ferg took a bit to get going too. I would’ve given a few more overs to Neesh.
There was very little logic to it.
If Oz were to win, Carey, Green and Maxwell were going to have to do most of the work - we could either bowl our guns at them when they weren't set and conditions were helpful - or hold them in reserve in case they got set and the ball got old.
Waaay dumber than Cane and Fozzie have managed.
-
I still don't know why Guptill, Santner and Bracewell are in the team. At least the first two have been heroes in black in the past. But they hurt us at least as much as they help. And Bracewell is just bizarre. An old journeyman who seems to be teacher's pet right now
-
@canefan said in Hadlee-Chappell ODI 1.0:
I still don't know why Guptill, Santner and Bracewell are in the team. At least the first two have been heroes in black in the past. But they hurt us at least as much as they help. And Bracewell is just bizarre. An old journeyman who seems to be teacher's pet right now
Yes it was Ireland. But nobody else did any good...
-
@Donsteppa said in Hadlee-Chappell ODI 1.0:
@canefan said in Hadlee-Chappell ODI 1.0:
I still don't know why Guptill, Santner and Bracewell are in the team. At least the first two have been heroes in black in the past. But they hurt us at least as much as they help. And Bracewell is just bizarre. An old journeyman who seems to be teacher's pet right now
Yes it was Ireland. But nobody else did any good...
This
-
-
-
@Crucial said in Hadlee-Chappell ODI 1.0:
@canefan said in Hadlee-Chappell ODI 1.0:
Trent doesn't talk with Kane?
Probably doesn't now.
We've hit our high water mark and it's all downhill from here
-
-
@nzzp said in Hadlee-Chappell ODI 1.0:
@canefan said in Hadlee-Chappell ODI 1.0:
We've hit our high water mark and it's all downhill from here
Yes, but that high water mark was glorious while it lasted.
No argument from me. But for an umpiring snafu and a brain explosion we'd have 2 world trophies
-
@canefan said in Hadlee-Chappell ODI 1.0:
I still don't know why Guptill, Santner and Bracewell are in the team. At least the first two have been heroes in black in the past. But they hurt us at least as much as they help. And Bracewell is just bizarre. An old journeyman who seems to be teacher's pet right now
Averages over 50 in ODIs……
But then you need to have a look at the small print and realise that his 11 matches are made up of three vs the Netherlands, three vs Ireland, one vs Scotland and three vs the West Indies……Never actually dismissed vs Ireland scoring 127*, 42* and 21*. Take out those scores and his record is shite. A bog standard minnow basher if ever I saw one.
-
@MN5 said in Hadlee-Chappell ODI 1.0:
@canefan said in Hadlee-Chappell ODI 1.0:
I still don't know why Guptill, Santner and Bracewell are in the team. At least the first two have been heroes in black in the past. But they hurt us at least as much as they help. And Bracewell is just bizarre. An old journeyman who seems to be teacher's pet right now
Averages over 50 in ODIs……
But then you need to have a look at the small print and realise that his 11 matches are made up of three vs the Netherlands, three vs Ireland, one vs Scotland and three vs the West Indies……Never actually dismissed vs Ireland scoring 127*, 42* and 21*. Take out those scores and his record is shite. A bog standard minnow basher if ever I saw one.
He's barely played top tier nations. Sometimes numbers are deceiving. Most of his career should have a big asterik
-
@MN5 said in Hadlee-Chappell ODI 1.0:
A bog standard minnow basher if ever I saw one.
Bog standard against Ireland - quality Fern punning.
Seriously, though, no one else stood up ... so fair play to the fella. And that's the selectors job - see whose technique and temperament will handle the step up to harder bowling/tougher situations
-
@canefan said in Hadlee-Chappell ODI 1.0:
@MN5 said in Hadlee-Chappell ODI 1.0:
@canefan said in Hadlee-Chappell ODI 1.0:
I still don't know why Guptill, Santner and Bracewell are in the team. At least the first two have been heroes in black in the past. But they hurt us at least as much as they help. And Bracewell is just bizarre. An old journeyman who seems to be teacher's pet right now
Averages over 50 in ODIs……
But then you need to have a look at the small print and realise that his 11 matches are made up of three vs the Netherlands, three vs Ireland, one vs Scotland and three vs the West Indies……Never actually dismissed vs Ireland scoring 127*, 42* and 21*. Take out those scores and his record is shite. A bog standard minnow basher if ever I saw one.
He's barely played top tier nations. Sometimes numbers are deceiving...
Absolutely. His averaged over 60 ( !!! ) going into the Oz game and I had to double check.
But given our history he’ll probably have a longish career as a bits and bobs type player.
-
@nzzp said in Hadlee-Chappell ODI 1.0:
@MN5 said in Hadlee-Chappell ODI 1.0:
A bog standard minnow basher if ever I saw one.
**Bog standard against Ireland - quality Fern punning.
**
Seriously, though, no one else stood up ... so fair play to the fella. And that's the selectors job - see whose technique and temperament will handle the step up to harder bowling/tougher situationsI’m glad you like what I did there.
-
@MN5 said in Hadlee-Chappell ODI 1.0:
@canefan said in Hadlee-Chappell ODI 1.0:
@MN5 said in Hadlee-Chappell ODI 1.0:
@canefan said in Hadlee-Chappell ODI 1.0:
I still don't know why Guptill, Santner and Bracewell are in the team. At least the first two have been heroes in black in the past. But they hurt us at least as much as they help. And Bracewell is just bizarre. An old journeyman who seems to be teacher's pet right now
Averages over 50 in ODIs……
But then you need to have a look at the small print and realise that his 11 matches are made up of three vs the Netherlands, three vs Ireland, one vs Scotland and three vs the West Indies……Never actually dismissed vs Ireland scoring 127*, 42* and 21*. Take out those scores and his record is shite. A bog standard minnow basher if ever I saw one.
He's barely played top tier nations. Sometimes numbers are deceiving...
Absolutely. His averaged over 60 ( !!! ) going into the Oz game and I had to double check.
But given our history he’ll probably have a longish career as a bits and bobs type player.
He's 31 as well. Surely we should be looking at a younger option. Latham was average behind the stumps too. Where is Phillips? He'd be about as effectual at wicket taking as Bracewell
-
sunnier and hotter today
-
