Bledisloe 1
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@Steve said in Bledisloe 1:
Will Jordan has a horn on him a cat wouldn't scratch. Fizzing at the slit.
I expect a hat trick from the best sportsman ever to have the name Jordan.
Rip into it son with gay abandon.
Cutting Lines like he is a guest in the Chateaux Marmont.
I’ll have whatever you’re smoking.
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@Bones said in Bledisloe 1:
So...it appears Foster is banking on slotting unproven players in if there are injuries over the next year and having an experienced, settled side around them to help and hope they slot in ok, rather than see now.
Think you're right. The problem is he hasn't been able to try newer players as his back is continually up against the wall. He has to win on Thursday to keep Bledisloe and again the following week to keep the Eden Park record.
Wouldn't have minded the recent losses so much if we were blooding newbies - but we weren't and ended up with the worst of both worlds.
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@Mattasaurus said in Bledisloe 1:
Surely AI has got some motivation to have a big game after watching SF smash rucks and do all the tight stuff....that said he's capable of being a big impact late in the game.
That's the only way the selection makes sense I guess. Akira is a better open-field player and SB is better in the tight. AI does need some serious game time though.
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@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 1:
@Billy-Tell said in Bledisloe 1:
I’m ok with the team except I would have brought Reece back. Not sure what he did to get dropped tbh other than play pretty well against Ireland.
Sotutu needs to take his opportunity. It’s entirely in his hands.
i know right, i think thats whats gets me, the people that get dropped after playing well and those that keep playing after playing poorly...hence my suspicion fozzie does his selections based on Rugby Challenge 19 player ratings
It's possible that Foster & Schmidt are happy with Reece and see him as a safe option and a shoe-in for RWC2023, but are concerned with Will Jordan's form and want to give him as much game-time as possible to come right.
Might disagree, but it makes sense.
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@Billy-Tell said in Bledisloe 1:
Hmmm. I see the akira is awesome posts again. Bloody well show us please akira with a dominant display off the bench rather than an ok-ish one.
Kinda agree. Hugely talented and to Foster's credit, he's done well with Akira compared to Hansen and Akira has responded to that.
Not too sure where he fits into the game-plan, but agree he needs to perform from the bench as we don't have the luxury of giving him a start against lesser teams, sadly.
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@Kirwan said in Bledisloe 1:
On form, Will Jordan gets a rest.
Or Schmidt & Foster want to give him one more chance to find form. The bounce of the ball hasn't gone his way recently and perhaps he's a confidence player
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@Bones said in Bledisloe 1:
He's pretty good at super rugby.
So is Codie Taylor.So is Scott Robertson...
(Lights blue touchpaper and retires to safe distance)
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@Nepia said in Bledisloe 1:
But he's had low metres and high missed tackle stats a few times this year while appearing regularly in the MOTM voting.
TBF, his work rate has been bloody good though.
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@nostrildamus said in Bledisloe 1:
I can't be accused of being a fan of Frizell (or Foster) but I admit when SF came back he played well at 6. But the last games against Australia, Akira terrorized them. I'd be more inclined to play him in the first game, at least.
Frizell isn't actually capable of a performance like that
Being careful to not be seen as Frizzy-lover , cos I'm really not, but that's hardly the point. Kaino wasn't capable of that either, and he went pretty good in the 6 jumper.
I would pick anyone over Frizell. Robinson, Jacobson, Blackadder, hell even PGS at 6.
But I’ll admit in the two wins vs Boks & Argentina Frizell has been solid. Has done all the dirty work, cleans, hard carry’s that you need from a 6 when playing with Ardie. He’s also been a threat in the line outs.
Yep. You had to look hard for SF in Pumas II. He was really getting stuck into the thick of it.
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@voodoo said in Bledisloe 1:
@No-Quarter said in Bledisloe 1:
@nostrildamus said in Bledisloe 1:
I can't be accused of being a fan of Frizell (or Foster) but I admit when SF came back he played well at 6. But the last games against Australia, Akira terrorized them. I'd be more inclined to play him in the first game, at least.
Frizell isn't actually capable of a performance like that
Being careful to not be seen as Frizzy-lover , cos I'm really not, but that's hardly the point. Kaino wasn't capable of that either, and he went pretty good in the 6 jumper.
OK we can let you off with a warning this time, but if you ever mention Kaino's name alongside Frizell's again that's at least a 6 month ban.
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@No-Quarter said in Bledisloe 1:
@voodoo said in Bledisloe 1:
@No-Quarter said in Bledisloe 1:
@nostrildamus said in Bledisloe 1:
I can't be accused of being a fan of Frizell (or Foster) but I admit when SF came back he played well at 6. But the last games against Australia, Akira terrorized them. I'd be more inclined to play him in the first game, at least.
Frizell isn't actually capable of a performance like that
Being careful to not be seen as Frizzy-lover , cos I'm really not, but that's hardly the point. Kaino wasn't capable of that either, and he went pretty good in the 6 jumper.
OK we can let you off with a warning this time, but if you ever mention Kaino's name alongside Frizell's again that's at least a 6 month ban.
Fair
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@NTA said in Bledisloe 1:
@Tim said in Bledisloe 1:
NZ TAB has the spread at 12.5 points.
Australia's depth is facing an extreme test.
If Foster can't rack up at least 50 here, he should be fired.
Nice try.
Rennie will be doing everything he can to limit damage. If that means going in with a limited game plan based entirely on spoiling he will do it.
Will be good test for our guys to think their way around the problem and an indicator of if they have got past banging their heads against a wall. I'm not confident that it won't take a full half with the thinking only coming alongside the oranges. -
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@Steve said in Bledisloe 1:
Will Jordan has a horn on him a cat wouldn't scratch. Fizzing at the slit.
I expect a hat trick from the best sportsman ever to have the name Jordan.
Rip into it son with gay abandon.
Cutting Lines like he is a guest in the Chateaux Marmont.
Not sure what it means but I like it
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some hyperbolic shit on this thread and it is only about 2 players in the same team lol. Personally I think they offer different strengths, SF did put in some big games recently but I still think Akira has a higher ceiling. Even the stats shared for me only show part of the story. Carries, tackles, missed tackles, metres gained cover part of it, anyone with access to find stats like number of cleanouts, successful cleanouts v penalties conceded?, someone used to track (1st 3 players to a ruck) etc, Im sure some platform would have them. Probably would put a few of the other forwards to shame knowing those numbers, but might help shape opinions more objectively including my own..
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@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe 1:
@bayimports said in Bledisloe 1:
some hyperbolic shit on this thread
are you new?
i also love that that specific debate includes a player thats not actually available due to injury
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@bayimports said in Bledisloe 1:
some hyperbolic shit on this thread and it is only about 2 players in the same team lol. Personally I think they offer different strengths, SF did put in some big games recently but I still think Akira has a higher ceiling. Even the stats shared for me only show part of the story. Carries, tackles, missed tackles, metres gained cover part of it, anyone with access to find stats like number of cleanouts, successful cleanouts v penalties conceded?, someone used to track (1st 3 players to a ruck) etc, Im sure some platform would have them. Probably would put a few of the other forwards to shame knowing those numbers, but might help shape opinions more objectively including my own..
Trouble is that those stats are gathered through the opta stuff which I think comes from the player GPS. Teams wont let that detail out to other teams for good reason.
