All Blacks v Argentina II

[ACT Crusader]

I wouldn’t mind seeing the below

4-Retallick/Whitelock
5-Barrett
6-Frizzel
7-Papalii
8-Savea

19-Whitelock/Retallick
20-Sotutu

[Crucial]

@Bovidae said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

The only advantage Havili has over the other 2nd 5 options is his kicking game, and his combination with Mo'unga if he starts at 1st 5. Having someone who is going to run more direct and challenge the defensive line, and therefore provide some space to the outside backs would be so much better.

That visual you are imagining doesn't happen often in tests. More often than not it is forwards that are there to do that job. The difference between test rugby and NPC is massive as the backlines we all picture are evident at lower levels but at the top, instead of 5 or 6 players behind the breakdown, working together it is more like 10 or 11.

[Kiwiwomble]

@Bovidae said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

The only advantage Havili has over the other 2nd 5 options is his kicking game, and his combination with Mo'unga if he starts at 1st 5. Having someone who is going to run more direct and challenge the defensive line, and therefore provide some space to the outside backs would be so much better.

that makes sense on paper...but they dont do it and when we do kick our chase game is shit

[Steve]

I want to see Jordan at 15 , a change at 7, a change at 8 and a change at 12 as a bare minimum.

Fakatava in the 23 too.

And Cody Taylor shot out of a circus canon.

[Tim]

Argentina: Juan Cruz Mallia, Emiliano Boffelli, Matias Moroni, Matias Orlando, Santiago Cordero, Santiago Carreras, Tomas Cubelli, Pablo Matera, Marcos Kremer, Santiago Grondona, Tomas Lavanini, Guido Petti, Joel Sclavi, Julian Montoya (c), Thomas Gallo.

Reserves: Santiago Socino, Mayco Vivas, Eduardo Bello, Matias Alemanno, Juan Martin Gonzalez Samso, Gonzalo Bertranou, Benjamin Urdapilleta, Lucio Cinti.

The usually exuberant Cheika was somewhat lost for words when informed of the tattoo on Thursday morning after making four changes – at blindside, halfback, lock and left wing – to his team for the return test against the All Blacks in Hamilton on Saturday.

All Blacks, Sport, Rugby

Michael Cheika reacts to fan's tattoo as Pumas make changes for rematch

The usually exuberant Cheika was somewhat lost for words when informed of the tattoo.

[Crucial]

What a fucked up article. All about a tattoo and not the changes made.

[Kiwiwomble]

@Steve said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

I want to see Jordan at 15 , a change at 7, a change at 8 and a change at 12 as a bare minimum.

Fakatava in the 23 too.

And Cody Taylor shot out of a circus canon.

cane fakes an injury to save face

7 savea
8 sotutu

12 jordie
15 jordan

.....just try it out, see if it balances things a bit more

[Bovidae]

@Crucial said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

@Bovidae said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

The only advantage Havili has over the other 2nd 5 options is his kicking game, and his combination with Mo'unga if he starts at 1st 5. Having someone who is going to run more direct and challenge the defensive line, and therefore provide some space to the outside backs would be so much better.

That visual you are imagining doesn't happen often in tests. More often than not it is forwards that are there to do that job.

Maybe, maybe not. But running laterally doesn't help your team if you are allowing the opposition to drift and not commit to tackling anyone. Kerevi and de Allende are examples of what a 2nd 5 is needs to do when required. I am not expecting a change, however.

[Tim]

Once Ian Foster has spoken today at 12pm, Aaron Smith, Richie Mo'unga, Dane Coles and Ardie Savea will be the All Blacks up for the press conference. That suggests Mo'unga is starting and Coles is back in the 23?

[Hooroo]

Cane dropped, Cole’s starting

[Hooroo]

@Hooroo nope

[Tim]

At least Taylor is gone.

[Hooroo]

Hilarious!!!

[Stargazer]

@Tim And Papali'i on the bench!

[Bovidae]

Hey, at least they don't have to replace ST now when the reserve props come on.

Montoya played almost the entire game.

[Chris]

@Tim said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

At least Taylor is gone.

And Akira

[Machpants]

@Tim said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

At least Taylor is gone.

Some great work developig depth for the future Foster, and rewarding the medicority of the present. Fosters Follies and the Undroppables - a band name from the age of rugby that they play (amateur)

[Chris]

Well continuity in HC,Continuity in selections.

At least I suppose they are staying strong on some convictions.

[Chris]

@Machpants said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

@Tim said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

At least Taylor is gone.

Some great work developig depth for the future Foster, and rewarding the medicority of the present. Fosters Follies and the Undroppables - a band name from the age of rugby that they play (amateur)

Rebuilding

[Kirwan]

I'd change 6, 10, 12, 14 (For Reece).

Would have brought back Ofa for the bench too after the limp performances last week from the bench.