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@smudge said in Rough tips and other bets...:
@kid-chocolate said in Rough tips and other bets...:
Good on her. Don’t let bastards keep you down.
Jamie Kah claims historic Scobie Breasley Medal
Ousted Kah vows: ‘I'm not done yet'
Don't let the bastards keep her down? This is entirely on her and her fellow party goers. Racing had done a brilliant job of upholding its social licence to keep racing through lockdown in Australia by applying stringent protocols and not giving the public a reason to cry foul about racing participants abusing their privilege.
Much like the league players who had a piss up at one guy's house, this type of indulgence while so many Aussies can't go more than 5km from their house for more than an hour or two a day and have had their income tested by this pandemic, risks breaching that social licence.
She's a brilliant talent, but she's not above the law. I'm glad she's taking the right attitude to returning after her suspension though.
Same crowd that would have turned in Anne Frank and demanded Rosa Parks sit at the back of the bus. “It’s the law.”
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@kid-chocolate said in Rough tips and other bets...:
@smudge said in Rough tips and other bets...:
@kid-chocolate said in Rough tips and other bets...:
Good on her. Don’t let bastards keep you down.
Jamie Kah claims historic Scobie Breasley Medal
Ousted Kah vows: ‘I'm not done yet'
Don't let the bastards keep her down? This is entirely on her and her fellow party goers. Racing had done a brilliant job of upholding its social licence to keep racing through lockdown in Australia by applying stringent protocols and not giving the public a reason to cry foul about racing participants abusing their privilege.
Much like the league players who had a piss up at one guy's house, this type of indulgence while so many Aussies can't go more than 5km from their house for more than an hour or two a day and have had their income tested by this pandemic, risks breaching that social licence.
She's a brilliant talent, but she's not above the law. I'm glad she's taking the right attitude to returning after her suspension though.
Same crowd that would have turned in Anne Frank and demanded Rosa Parks sit at the back of the bus. “It’s the law.”
Fuck me days. Welcome to False Equivalence 101.
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holy shit could you imagine if their little fucking shenanigans had resulted in Vic racing being shut down on the brink of the carnival?
When do you reckon it would have been safe for them to re-emerge in to Australian society? 2024? 2025?
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@mariner4life said in Rough tips and other bets...:
holy shit could you imagine if their little fucking shenanigans had resulted in Vic racing being shut down on the brink of the carnival?
When do you reckon it would have been safe for them to re-emerge in to Australian society? 2024? 2025?
Yeah, yeah. And Brian O’Driscoll Could. Have. Died. I’ve heard it all before.
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@kid-chocolate said in Rough tips and other bets...:
@mariner4life said in Rough tips and other bets...:
holy shit could you imagine if their little fucking shenanigans had resulted in Vic racing being shut down on the brink of the carnival?
When do you reckon it would have been safe for them to re-emerge in to Australian society? 2024? 2025?
Yeah, yeah. And Brian O’Driscoll Could. Have. Died. I’ve heard it all before.
How about you actually come up with a tangible response? Up in North America, you're clearly not aware of the nuances that have allowed racing to continue at the highest alert levels in Australia. Your responses in this thread over the last few days have been laughable, never mind your utterly awful comparison of Jamie Kah getting on the piss (and god knows what else) during Covid times to the situation of Anne Fucking Frank.
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@smudge said in Rough tips and other bets...:
@kid-chocolate said in Rough tips and other bets...:
@mariner4life said in Rough tips and other bets...:
holy shit could you imagine if their little fucking shenanigans had resulted in Vic racing being shut down on the brink of the carnival?
When do you reckon it would have been safe for them to re-emerge in to Australian society? 2024? 2025?
Yeah, yeah. And Brian O’Driscoll Could. Have. Died. I’ve heard it all before.
How about you actually come up with a tangible response? Up in North America, you're clearly not aware of the nuances that have allowed racing to continue at the highest alert levels in Australia. Your responses in this thread over the last few days have been laughable, never mind your utterly awful comparison of Jamie Kah getting on the piss (and god knows what else) during Covid times to the situation of Anne Fucking Frank.
Fully all of this.
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@smudge said in Rough tips and other bets...:
What's $4.1 million between friends?
We started watching at $2.1m and it was like watching sport guessing how it would finish.
Wish we put in a bit at around $100k just to say "we threw a bid in"
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Waller and J-Mac win The Everest with NATURE STRIP. Just held on. Worthy victor, has been the best Aus sprinter overall the last three years. Does Steve Hansen still own a share? If so he’d be receiving a nice chunk of change today.
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@kid-chocolate said in Rough tips and other bets...:
Waller and J-Mac win The Everest with NATURE STRIP. Just held on. Worthy victor, has been the best Aus sprinter overall the last three years. Does Steve Hansen still own a share? If so he’d be receiving a nice chunk of change today.
Yes he does. He watched from Tokyo
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Holeesheet. Fave ZAAKI scratched from the Cox Plate, goes in a few hours. Shocker!
J-Mac was in the saddle. He’s actually ridden 7 of these horses, and won’t have a mount. (Waller wouldn’t bump Damian Lane off Verry Elleegent, would he?) Mo’unga stands a verrry good chance of taking this out. I love VE but she’ll have to be on the speed to get there, that Valley straight is too short for her full windup.
Anamoe now fave, and VE shortening.
For those keeping score, with the two scratchings there are now 8 entrants:
Four NZL (Verry Elleegent, Probabeel, Mo’unga, Callsign Mav)
Three AUS
One IRECan Callsign Mav shock the world?
I’ll tell you what, this Irish horse has me scratching my head. Very ambitious. His last race was a win in the G1 Saratoga Derby in NY, the Summer at Saratoga is the most prestigious race meet in America, and a G1 win at Saratoga makes me sit up. This horse has flown way under the radar. I can’t imagine it winning, but… c’mon, VE kick it’s ass!
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@kid-chocolate said in Rough tips and other bets...:
Holeesheet. Fave ZAAKI scratched from the Cox Plate, goes in a few hours. Shocker!
J-Mac was in the saddle. He’s actually ridden 7 of these horses, and won’t have a mount. (Waller wouldn’t bump Damian Lane off Verry Elleegent, would he?)
He'd have to get that one past the Racing Victoria stewards and that won't be happening, especially when riders have been declared for several days.
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@kid-chocolate said in Rough tips and other bets...:
I’ll tell you what, this Irish horse has me scratching my head. Very ambitious. His last race was a win in the G1 Saratoga Derby in NY, the Summer at Saratoga is the most prestigious race meet in America, and a G1 win at Saratoga makes me sit up. This horse has flown way under the radar. I can’t imagine it winning, but…
It (STATE OF REST) survived a 30-min protest and won. Bumped Anamoe near line. VE was hard-charging wide, and for a moment I thought had good chance to win, but that straight is too short.
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@kid-chocolate said in Rough tips and other bets...:
I’ll tell you what, this Irish horse has me scratching my head. Very ambitious. His last race was a win in the G1 Saratoga Derby in NY, the Summer at Saratoga is the most prestigious race meet in America, and a G1 win at Saratoga makes me sit up. This horse has flown way under the radar. I can’t imagine it winning, but…
I’m miffed about this. Good on ya young Joseph O’Brien, what a target, what a bullseye. Hmm, I’ll take my horse that’s never won a race win a million-dollar G1 in America then a $5 million Australiasian Championship 2 for 2. Ridiculous. STATE OF REST (IRE) had only five starts and one win coming into the Cox Plate. No prep races. Formline read :
First Australian start. Arrives off G1 Saratoga Derby win at first try beyond 1600m.
He came in to the race with the lowest international time rating in the field (115, tied with Callsign Mav) and is listed as a 4yo in that field, but is really a northern hemisphere three -year old, so got dinged a couple extra kilograms. The horse he beat by a length at the G1 at Saratoga in August (SOLDIER RISING (GB)) was 8/5 fave at a $400K G2 for 3yos at Belmont today but could only manage 5th, and the American turf crop right now is weak. Unless that horse becomes a superstar, that result is just shit for Aus racing.
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More rotten luck for J-Mac.
Melbourne Cup shock – favoured international runner ruled out
Melbourne Cup contender Away He Goes has been ruled out of the great race with a tendon injury.
It comes barely 72 hours after champion Sydney jockey James McDonald secured the ride on the Ismail Mohammed-trained British challenger.
Away He Goes, runner-up in the Group 1 Goodwood Cup in July, was rated a $15 Melbourne Cup markets.
He lost out on any share of the Cox Plate ($5 mill) and now the Cup ($8 mill). That’s leaving a lot of chow at the table.
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@kid-chocolate I'm miffed about State of Rest as well, because I read your earlier post and it got me wondering - but not enough to put a small amount of cash on his nose.
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Watching that replay i've changed my mind about the whole race
I was furious at Lane for where he took VE but holy shit, it was probably the right move. Blew past everyone, but that sharp bend and Mounga being determined to be wide all day pushed him well wide. And there was absolutely no reason for that gap the winners took to appear either. Dalasan goes towards the rail for some fucking reason, the other 2 front runners shifted out, and bang, a gap appears, and the 1 and 2 pour through. I have watched a lot of Valley racing and seen more than 1 good horse just get stuck in the straight behind tiring leaders before running out of room.
Hot take: If they don't run the Manikato meet the night before at the Valley, thus fucking the rail, VE wins a CP.
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@mariner4life said in Rough tips and other bets...:
And there was absolutely no reason for that gap the winners took to appear either. Dalasan goes towards the rail for some fucking reason, the other 2 front runners shifted out, and bang, a gap appears, and the 1 and 2 pour through. I have watched a lot of Valley racing and seen more than 1 good horse just get stuck in the straight behind tiring leaders before running out of room.
Too right. watching live i said holyfuckinbatshit, parted like the Red Sea. I couldn’t believe it, on a short straight yet. what a gift.
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James isn’t just a rider; he’s also a writer.
“I don’t even get to touch them. They fall apart before I get to them.”
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Could J-Mac reunite with Verry Elleegant in Melbourne Cup?
https://www.racenet.com.au/news/melbourne-cup-damian-lane-confirmed-to-ride-the-chosen-one-20211029
