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@mariner4life “Angles.”
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I do recall the Daily Racing Form in the States looking at a hot “secret angle” from an old-time New York bettor years ago about throwing money at any horse who’d done a workout of at least a mile within a half-week before a race, regardless whether the coming race was a sprint or a route. Now, they conceeded it was a very small sample size conducted over 15 years, because that training strategy seldom ever happens, but the DRF was a little bit astounded to discover In their investigation that the “secret angle” (I think they even had a name for it) had a fairly high winning percentage, over 70% and maybe even in the high 70s, and included some nice longshots that paid handsomely. I look for the angle bc I’d love to play it in a multi-race, but I never see it. Nobody works out their horses a mile a couple days before a big race on dirt. And yet when I saw the results of that angle, it only made me curious why more U.S. trainers weren’t doing it.
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@mariner4life said in Rough tips and other bets...:
@Salacious-Crumb said in Rough tips and other bets...:
@mariner4life My eyes (and ears) glaze over when they give their tips. I learned that from childhood.
i am not saying i am good at this either,
I wouldn’t say that either, I lose more than I win. But I grew up at my granddad’s knee thumbing his copy of Best Bets like it was a puzzle book (I think there were three different digest-sized race-field books published every week when I was a kid, and he bought ‘em all) as well as the Friday racing supplement in the Herald. I devoured that stuff when I was a kid, it was perfectly normal, the way kids play computer games nowadays. And of course, as a kid with an over-inflated ego, I was pretty sure all the guests on Glyn Tucker’s show told great stories but didn’t know jack about picking winners.
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Geee dont want to sound full of myself but I am waaaay up in terms of profitability and return from this 'game'. If I was making losses, while I'm sure I would still enjoy the thrill of trying to beat the bookie/other punters (as I get almost as much joy picking a winner or value place runner without placing a bet), I am sure it would be frowned upon at home for the amount of time that I put in.
Even now with good $ returns I do get a bit of pressure at home re the time I spend doing analysis but its probably more on the social side that pisses the wife off. If we are out on a sat arvo or evening she hates that I have to look at the phone for a race (cant handle just looking at results) or when a friend of ours asks if I am on the punt or backed any winners today (without me having the phone out).
Its the regular withdrawals and wifes knowledge that the horse/sport punt (or investment as I call it) has actually allowed us to purchase or do things that we may not have been otherwise able to do, that makes is relatively easy to justify my time.
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@JK i know you are way bigger in to this than me.
If i was putitng money in very month i reckon the wife would be having words. I bought her a fucking ace christmas gift from gambling winnings (actually @Smudge that was down to you mainly that particular one) so she can see the upside.
but i spend little time except for the actual time in front of the races. Quick squiz at the racing pull-out Friday morning, then not much else.
I have been looked at sideways when we have been out and i have pulled up a G1 to watch...
I kicked home Tagaloa in the Blue Diamond in an Uber with her parents on the way to a wedding. That was funny "are you serious...?"
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As someone who provides racing tips for a living (well at least a sideline gig), I know how much time many tipsters put into their selection. In my case, it's not long... but I'm sure there are others who have more time to commit to it.
But as I'm dealing with the same bunch of horses each week, I get to know their formlines pretty well. Best way to find random winners at nice odds in harness at least is to watch the workouts & trials videos and look for those horses having a quiet run at the back and either finding the line well late or never being pulled out by the driver.
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@JK said in [Rough tips and other bets...](/post/428615
I love horses that are fit, especially on heavier tracks or when they are front runners and back in distance (plus blinkers.....magic!)
Larimer street just then at MV was perfect example. Not a heavy track but a track that favours front runners and we had a fit horse back in distance with blinkers on. Too strong!
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The one fucking time I don't bet on Loving Gaby...
Scales of Justice was done in the first 100m. Fucking Moonee Valley
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@Hooroo said in Rough tips and other bets...:
GO POLLY GREY!!!
Her biggest race yet. Group 2 Japan Trophy. Fingers crossed.
We one this with Villifye a few years ago.
I'm on!
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@mariner4life @Hooroo #metoo
Lets go!
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Me today
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@Smudge said in Rough tips and other bets...:
@Smudge said in Rough tips and other bets...:
Oneloveonelife debuting on Saturday for the other syndicate I'm involved with.
Tough ask for him as he's straight into a Group 3 race at Wyndham (R7) and up against some tidy Canterbury types (he's trained in Southland). Best case scenario would be for him to sneak into a placing after being saved for one run. He's at 21s and 3.30 which is entirely fair.
Saved for one run, but they walked up front so he struggled to make any ground in the straight. Wasn't disgraced on debut though, so that's fine.
Bit more disappointing today. Found the trail thanks to some gate speed. Gait looked a little sloppy on the turn but looked to kick 150m out before just stopping and fading to 6th of 6. I suspect we'll have to wait for a few months to see him at the races again (probably as a 3YO).
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What was the plan dip shit? 4 back on the rail? What did you expect?
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So. Two year olds. Who’s going to win the Slipper? I guess I have to bracket 1. Tagaloa and 3. Farnan in my “must have” column, then 9. Dame Giselle, 10. See You Soon and 18. Minhaaj in my “deep plays.” I can never handicap these baby ponies. (1-3-9-10-18)
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First of the G1s at Rosehill The Ranvet Stakes was a great duel, Addeybb and Verry Elleegant drawing away from the peleton before the final turn and battling all the way to the line. Amazing effort by both horses, Addeybb takes it. (Alive into the third leg of this Pick 3 sequence...)
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Ohsweet, I just hit the Pick4 at Sam Houston. Played It small, fave/fave/fave/25-1 shot. Paid $212. Kinda small. I’ll take it.
