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@Chris said in NZ Cricket:
This NZ u/19 side is one of the worst batting units I have seen.
The bowling is ok Rowe and Clarke look promising but the batting is very weak and some very average batting technique.We have never been famous for our U19 sides... I think Reddy and the skipper Jackson look handy prospects.
The commentators pointed out last night that only a couple of players from each side generally have international careers, and only half domestic careers.
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@frugby said in NZ Cricket:
@Chris said in NZ Cricket:
This NZ u/19 side is one of the worst batting units I have seen.
The bowling is ok Rowe and Clarke look promising but the batting is very weak and some very average batting technique.We have never been famous for our U19 sides... I think Reddy and the skipper Jackson look handy prospects.
The commentators pointed out last night that only a couple of players from each side generally have international careers, and only half domestic careers.
Maybe but really if the coaching is producing those batting techniques the development is poor.
I was looking at the batting set ups and alignment when playing shots and it wasn’t good and in defence they were just pressing forward hoping they are playing down the correct line.
Reddy got done by a straight one just played down the wrong line.If it is as you say and the u/19s produce hardly any first class cricketers let alone internationals.
Where are they coming from ?
Is NZ identifying the wrong talent ? Because that is supposed to be the pathway.
Are you saying most of the u/19 players disappear after the program finishes.
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Probably the two best U19 sides we have had in recent history are unsurprisingly 2008 and 2010. Where the majoriry of the squads top players are mainstays in the national side. 2008 had eight future black caps, with 2010 had nine. Some cross over in the squads. In 2008 we lost the semi via D/L. In 2010 we finished 7th. That was the golden generation and we still didn't dominate. Semis was a decent resuly though
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The head coach is Jonny Bassett-Graham with assistance from Paul Wiseman and Graeme Aldridge. I've never heard of Bassett-Graham but he played for Auckland. Based on that group he must also be the batting coach.
Reddy scored big against Nepal and is only a Y13 this year.
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@Bovidae Jonny Bassett-Graham would have barely played for Auckland, don't remember him playing at that level. He was a stalwart at the Suburbs New Lynn club which has produced Martin Guptill, Jeet Raval, Ajaz Patel, Reece Young, Jimmy Neesham, Sean Solia to name a few of late.
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It's in topic.
Because I'm pretty sure Basset-Graham was an NZ u19 player back in the 00s. But would have been a fringe provincial player at senior level. Probably sub-10 games.
Edit. No, I'm wrong.
1 FC game, but no record of him playing for NZ U19s. -
@Chris said in NZ Cricket:
To be honest I would expect everyone to score big v Nepal for NZ not exactly a power force in Cricket
They had no idea V Afghanistan or Pakistan..The are good enough us apparently:
NEP19 vs NZ19 Cricket Scorecard, 6th Match, Group D at Fatullah, January 28, 2016
Live Cricket Scoreboard: Get Nepal Under-19s vs New Zealand Under-19s 6th Match, Group D, cricket scorecard, ICC Under-19 World Cup 2015/16 dated January 28, 2016.
That team has five players who have played for the Black Caps and four other who have had reasonable domestic careers (two not so much).
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@LABCAT said in NZ Cricket:
@Chris said in NZ Cricket:
To be honest I would expect everyone to score big v Nepal for NZ not exactly a power force in Cricket
They had no idea V Afghanistan or Pakistan..The are good enough us apparently:
NEP19 vs NZ19 Cricket Scorecard, 6th Match, Group D at Fatullah, January 28, 2016
Live Cricket Scoreboard: Get Nepal Under-19s vs New Zealand Under-19s 6th Match, Group D, cricket scorecard, ICC Under-19 World Cup 2015/16 dated January 28, 2016.
That team has five players who have played for the Black Caps and four other who have had reasonable domestic careers (two not so much).
Says more about the quality of the NZ u/19 teams
Nepal do not play in any tier 1 competions not a good look for NZ under age teams.
And if that is the criteria NZ under age teams are judged by we are doing well as we are as good as Nepal at u/19 level it is worse than I thought.If Australia lost to Nepal at that level there would a major shake up of the system as there has been before.
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There are plenty of development issues to work on in NZ Cricket. It’d take me ages to list them on the phone. And not that I can do much to help.
That said, an Australian opener has just carried his bat, yet the other 10 couldn’t stay with him against a team that hasn’t beaten them at home since 1997. The joys of cricket 😊
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We also lost to Nepal in the 2005/06 tournament.
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@Donsteppa said in NZ Cricket:
There are plenty of development issues to work on in NZ Cricket. It’d take me ages to list them on the phone. And not that I can do much to help.
That said, an Australian opener has just carried his bat, yet the other 10 couldn’t stay with him against a team that hasn’t beaten them at home since 1997. The joys of cricket 😊
I am sure their is a bounce back due soon.
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@frugby said in NZ Cricket:
@Chris said in NZ Cricket:
This NZ u/19 side is one of the worst batting units I have seen.
The bowling is ok Rowe and Clarke look promising but the batting is very weak and some very average batting technique.We have never been famous for our U19 sides... I think Reddy and the skipper Jackson look handy prospects.
The commentators pointed out last night that only a couple of players from each side generally have international careers, and only half domestic careers.
Depends what is meant by 'careers', but ...
Looking back at previous squads.
It would be 6 to 7 end up playing senior international cricket (in a good 2-year-cycle crop).
2 to 4 when you have a bad cycle.
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Just watching the U/19s bat against India
Jones has his off stump cleaned up first ball.
Reddy gets hit on the pad first ball doesn’t read the inswinger
Then plays all over a straight one LBW 2nd ball.
NZ 2 down for 0
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@Chris said in NZ Cricket:
We are going to be chasing some big scores looking at that bowling attack or we are going to need to set very big targets.
I'd play Sears over Southee. And hopefully he makes me eat my words, but I can see a whole lotta leather retrieval in our future.
