Springboks v All Blacks I
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@KiwiMurph said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@nostrildamus said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@MN5 said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@nostrildamus said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@Machpants said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
Yep there are bits and pieces that can be improved in the 23, Samisoni in, cane out etc. But really the problem is coaching, lack of shape and ideas, much more than selection
They are too conservative!
Put a 'cane at 12! (sits back with a bucket full of popcorn)..Is Ngani Laumape back ?
Cool.
Needs to end with -ie for fireworks. I count 2 options.
I didn't know B Proctor spelt his first name that way.......
Short for Proctologie. Get ready for penetrating runs, darts and probes at 12.
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For once, I’d just like to see the best players named in their best positions, which leaves a few obvious choices and a few debatable ones I know, but hey ho. No Jordie on the wing, that kind of thing. And no naming the team to counter the opposition’s strengths. Make them worry about the ABs. Thirdly, just play RTS. Unclear who the best 12 is based on form but don’t worry about any rough edges, inexperience the guy has. Just tell him to go out and step them into the stands.
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@Chris well I'm an optimist, so I reckon we will see some improvement in our play.
The addition of Ryan, focus and being away from the antsi NZ public!
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@Chris said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
This will be an interesting selection it may tell us if a gameplan is now being thought of or lack a of one continues.
Same old shit or a change up.I don't think they'll have have enough time to drastically overhaul anything, but what I am looking forward to is an improvement in set piece, both with and without possession.
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@taniwharugby said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@Chris well I'm an optimist, so I reckon we will see some improvement in our play.
The addition of Ryan, focus and being away from the antsi NZ public!
I have confidence Ryan will make a difference to the pack,not sure how much due to the small amount on time he has had.
Not sure about the defense and Tactics in attack that maybe our down fall -
@antipodean said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@Chris said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
This will be an interesting selection it may tell us if a gameplan is now being thought of or lack a of one continues.
Same old shit or a change up.I don't think they'll have have enough time to drastically overhaul anything, but what I am looking forward to is an improvement in set piece, both with and without possession.
Yeah me too defence and attack still worry me we need big improvements there as well.
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@Chris while I think our defence is the biggest issue, I think even small tweaks to the way our pack plays going forward will help no end.
I guess the other thing is, it shouldnt be too hard with at least 3 Crusaders forwards likely to start to get them onto the same page Ryan is on.
I'd just like to see somethign different from us passing and banging into thier defence phase after phase, then drop it and they break our line with ease...stick to the basics with pick and goes from ST, Akira, SB, Bower then Cane, SW & the other prop to do more cleaning, and Ardie to score the tries....
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@Bovidae said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
Bower now is the senior prop with 9 test starts.
Well, he played like a senior prop in the Irish series. Probably our only ray of sunshine.
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@taniwharugby said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@Chris while I think our defence is the biggest issue, I think even small tweaks to the way our pack plays going forward will help no end.
I guess the other thing is, it shouldnt be too hard with at least 3 Crusaders forwards likely to start to get them onto the same page Ryan is on.
I'd just like to see somethign different from us passing and banging into thier defence phase after phase, then drop it and they break our line with ease...stick to the basics with pick and goes from ST, Akira, SB, Bower then Cane, SW & the other prop to do more cleaning, and Ardie to score the tries....
Yep we need that direct approach against the Boks.
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@Chris said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@taniwharugby said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@Chris well I'm an optimist, so I reckon we will see some improvement in our play.
The addition of Ryan, focus and being away from the antsi NZ public!
I have confidence Ryan will make a difference to the pack,not sure how much due to the small amount on time he has had.
Not sure about the defense and Tactics in attack that maybe our down fallI like hearing about how he was simplifying things. Clarifying things should help a lot.
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@Kirwan said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@Chris said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@taniwharugby said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@Chris well I'm an optimist, so I reckon we will see some improvement in our play.
The addition of Ryan, focus and being away from the antsi NZ public!
I have confidence Ryan will make a difference to the pack,not sure how much due to the small amount on time he has had.
Not sure about the defense and Tactics in attack that maybe our down fallI like hearing about how he was simplifying things. Clarifying things should help a lot.
One of his strengths I think back to basics and do them at the highest level you can,
One of Ryan’s catch phrases at the Crusaders was
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@antipodean said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
Strong team. That tight five is formidable. Great to see a PSDT back too. World class. Strong centre partnership.
Interesting that Faf is back. He's played well against the ABs, and Smith in particular. He's there to niggle and disrupt. Does it also mean the box kicking game is back? His form has been hit and miss over the last 12 months though.
I think the Boks lose a bit of control with Willemse at 15 rather the Le Roux. Willemse is capable of moments of brilliance, but he can be got at. Le Roux's ability to be 2nd play maker and his tactical kicking are missed when he doesn't play.
Back 3 have not played much together at all. It will be an area the ABs will seek to put pressure on.
6-2 bench split tells you where the Boks see this game being won or lost. Fresh front row, 2 locks (Mostert can play 7) and an openside flanker. Neither of the young no 8s made the cut. This will be attritional.
It isn't side built for chasing a game. It is a side set up to strangle the opposition into unconsciousness.
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@stodders said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
Back 3 have not played much together at all. It will be an area the ABs will seek to put pressure on.
Not sure our kicking game is upto it, not to mention our defence when they run it back, Ireland made good gains off our poor kicks.
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South Africa:
15 Damian Willemse, 14 Kurt-lee Arendse, 13 Lukhanyo Am, 12 Damian de Allende, 11 Makazole Mapimpi, 10 Handre Pollard, 9 Francois De Klerk , 8 Jasper Wiese, 7 Pieter-Steph du Toit, 6 Siyamthanda Kolisi (captain), 5 Lodewyk de Jager, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Frans Malherbe, 2 Malcolm Marx, 1 Trevor Nyakane.
Replacements: 16 Mbongeni Mbonambi, 17 Steven Kitshoff, 18 Vincent Koch, 19 Salmaan Moerat, 20 Franco Mostert, 21 Albertus Smith, 22 Jaden Hendrikse, 23 Willie le Roux.Date: Saturday, August 6
Venue: Mbombela Stadium, Nelspruit.
Kick-off: 17.05 (02.05 Sunday, August 7 NZL time; 15.05 GMT)
Referee: Angus Gardner (Australia)
Assistant Referees: Luke Pearce (England) & Christophe Ridley (England)
TMO: Brett Cronan (Asustralia)
