Springboks v All Blacks I
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@JC said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
What exactly did Ardie say to Gardiner that wound him up so much?
Edit, talking about when BB had just been poleaxed
My guess would be something like
'Did you fucking see that Angus?'
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@MiketheSnow said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@JC said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
What exactly did Ardie say to Gardiner that wound him up so much?
Edit, talking about when BB had just been poleaxed
My guess would be something like
'Did you fucking see that Angus?'
I was thinking "Can I see that gold watch, Angie?"
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have to think that is a min of 3 weeks off for the winger?
Expect BB likely to miss next week, even if just precautionary.
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@taniwharugby said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
have to think that is a min of 3 weeks off for the winger?
Expect BB likely to miss next week, even if just precautionary.
Fuck him off for 5. It won't hurt us
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@mariner4life I dont have any issues dropping him, but we know Fozzie is reading a different book...one with big pictures of Frizzell
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@taniwharugby said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@mariner4life I dont have any issues dropping him, but we know Fozzie is reading a different book...one with big pictures of Frizzell
That fluffybunny did fucking nothing except get that try. Work all done by Clarke and whoever cleaned the ruck.
Just an awful selection.
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@stodders said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@kev said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@stodders you have to win the contact.
I thought ABs did that at times. Problem was, ABs committed too many men to breakdown, so after 2 or 3 phases they were running out of players and Boks were picking them off.
ABs body angles at clearout aren't good enough to clear bodies, so it is taking an extra man to effect it. It doesn't help that refs are allowing players to slow ball down whilst clearly not supporting their bodyweight, but hey, c'est la vie.
What seems to be issue is that oppo tacklers good at impeding ball placement. Then second man patient and gets the latch. Our cleaners aren’t taking him out.
Noticed Ardie several times looking to do same, but all but once Boks body smashed into him, in some cases arguably before he’d joined the ruck.
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@ACT-Crusader said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@MrDenmore said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
Yet none of the Springboks’ tactics was surprising. It’s how they beat us last year after all. But we still have no effective response, no ideas, no confidence and absolutely no future under this coaching regime.
They beat us last year with a last minute penalty and kick at the death. We had better attack last year to put pressure on the Boks. This year we couldn’t put any scoreboard pressure on them allowing them to just settle into their game.
The striking thing is that the main changes in backs from 100th win, were Nugget in and Clarke for Bridge! And Boks backs almost identical.
10-12-13 same for both sides as that game. What has gone wrong in that 11 months? Has Bok defence got a lot better, or have our guys just lost the plot?
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@No-Quarter Excellent post. I’ll be watching next week, because things can only get better.
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@pakman said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@ACT-Crusader said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@MrDenmore said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
Yet none of the Springboks’ tactics was surprising. It’s how they beat us last year after all. But we still have no effective response, no ideas, no confidence and absolutely no future under this coaching regime.
They beat us last year with a last minute penalty and kick at the death. We had better attack last year to put pressure on the Boks. This year we couldn’t put any scoreboard pressure on them allowing them to just settle into their game.
The striking thing is that the main changes in backs from 100th win, were Nugget in and Clarke for Bridge! And Boks backs almost identical.
10-12-13 same for both sides as that game. What has gone wrong in that 11 months? Has Bok defence got a lot better, or have our guys just lost the plot?
I think you answered your own question. We no longer have Bridge.
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@stodders said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
'As a halfback, it is pretty noticeable': Aaron Smith on All Blacks' breakdown issues
The breakdown was an area that plagued the All Blacks at home against Ireland at times and has been a key work-on for Ian Foster's team.
So who are the dodgy cleaners, the props? Think Scooter and Big Sam are fine. Advantage of former at 6 was we got some cleaning there.
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@pakman said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@No-Quarter Excellent post. I’ll be watching next week, because things can only get better.
Yeah, I probably will too, getting up with my boy is something I really enjoy doing as I used to do it with my old man. But far out it is tough viewing at the moment.
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@game_film maybe get him in as a high ball consultant...
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@game_film Jordan, Clarke, Jordie Barrett, and Beauden Barrett are all good under the high-ball, so we shouldn't have big problems. The structure isn't good. Same as we were not positioning guards at the ruck for Smith's box kicks, or lining up chasers.
The coaching is poor. Auckland under White, Blues under Umaga etc - name whatever under performing NZ team that you can think of.
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Havili and Ioane are okay under the ball, but haven't developed at all in that regard over the last three seasons, nor do they display any confidence there.
It's very frustrating.
What the fuck is Strawbridge doing this year? We have extra coaches like the Lions had hangers on in 2005.
Our scrum has been very inconsistent at best, and we have two scrum coaches. A fucking shambles.
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