All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship
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Holy shit! Sam Cane must have been in charge of selections, game plans, defense, and attack. I had no idea! Well, in that case, good riddance Mr. Cane.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
if poor Sam is the only one to lose his job i will be breaking out the blue and gold pitchforks and torches.
Fuck I'll join you. Cane is not the problem and still has plenty to offer at test level. We need MORE players that tackle hard, not less!
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@No-Quarter said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
if poor Sam is the only one to lose his job i will be breaking out the blue and gold pitchforks and torches.
Fuck I'll join you. Cane is not the problem and still has plenty to offer at test level. We need MORE players that tackle hard, not less!
Yeah, it'll be funny if we end up with a ruck watcher at 7. I'm trying to remember the last time we tried that? Some game with assholes in white shirts on the other team.
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@gt12 I'm confused. Who's the ruck watcher?
All I can think of when they say Cane losing the captaincy is that it is because they don't want him to be an automatic starter. I assume that's because they want to start Papali'i. Are you calling him a ruck watcher?
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@Stargazer assume Savea is the watcher
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@Stargazer said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@gt12 I'm confused. Who's the ruck watcher?
All I can think of when they say Cane losing the captaincy is that it is because they don't want him to be an automatic starter. I assume that's because they want to start Papali'i. Are you calling him a ruck watcher?
No. He's the next Sam Cane. Would be a good choice.
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Cane needs to lose captaincy, therefore at the very least doesn’t start. Simple!
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@Machpants said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@Chris said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
The squad assembles in Wellington on Monday so I am sure that the players know who is going to SA, or not.
With this management lot probably they don't know.
A few txts on Monday morning where are you the plane is leaving in 5 min.I dunno once you're in Foster's squad it's hard to get kicked out. So it'll be the same 34/36 placyers with replacements for Brodie and Karl.
Probs Gus (misses first test doesn't he? And probably still concussed)
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@The-Docter said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
Cane needs to lose captaincy, therefore at the very least doesn’t start. Simple!
I think you have it arse about face. I have no issue with his captaincy or mana in the team. My questions are simply whether he’s our best option in the 7 jersey.
That’s either because they think Ardie can move back to openside (which I’m not convinced on. He has to be there but is neither a 7 or 8 in the traditional setups) or Ardie stays 8 and DP gets more time.
I agree that if DP is going to take over openside then he needs to get up to speed before the RWC but that solves nothing in regards to the balance of the looses. -
@Crucial said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
I have no issue with his captaincy or mana in the team.
I do. I'm a huge Sam Cane fan as a player.
He hasn't displayed the qualities to be a good captain.
He was captain when Chiefs went winless in Super Rugby Aotearoa a couple of years ago.
That said - whilst I don't rate him as a captain - I don't think it would be nearly as much of an issue if he was still peak Sam Cane. He's clearly not the player he used to be and can't demand a starting spot.
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@Crucial said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@KiwiMurph “qualities”?
Not being overly effective is a bit different to qualities in my lingo. Maybe dictionary boy will sort it outThere's more to being a leader than being a good or effective player.
Keven Mealamu was a wonderful player. He was not a wonderful Blues captain.
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@Crucial said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@KiwiMurph “qualities”?
Not being overly effective is a bit different to qualities in my lingo. Maybe dictionary boy will sort it outThere's more to being a leader than being a good or effective player.
Keven Mealamu was a wonderful player. He was not a wonderful Blues captain.
Agree. That’s not what I was getting at. Cane has leadership qualities in my view and going by the respect his players have for him. I just find him not very effective in on field management of the game or ref “playing”
I still think he’s an effective player. The last game looked like he was carrying a heavy burden and that’s a sad way to end. Hopefully he can do a Ross Taylor. -
@Crucial said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
BTW if my sauce is correct the reason for delaying the announcement of the team has no conspiracy attached. It is for far more normal and “human” reasons.
It may become evident soon.Foster is pregnant?
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@Machpants said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@Crucial said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
BTW if my sauce is correct the reason for delaying the announcement of the team has no conspiracy attached. It is for far more normal and “human” reasons.
It may become evident soon.Foster is pregnant?
Close.
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@Machpants said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@Crucial said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
BTW if my sauce is correct the reason for delaying the announcement of the team has no conspiracy attached. It is for far more normal and “human” reasons.
It may become evident soon.Foster is pregnant?
Just looks it
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@Machpants said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@Crucial said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
BTW if my sauce is correct the reason for delaying the announcement of the team has no conspiracy attached. It is for far more normal and “human” reasons.
It may become evident soon.Foster is pregnant?
Well he was fucked about 9 months ago.