Foster, Robertson etc
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I agree the Saders loss to Drua is inconsequential in the context of Super rugby, Robertson's plans will cover the entire year and making sure they are there at the business end of the season. It does highlight the difference between coaching at Super level and test level though, there's no such thing as an inconsequential loss when you are AB head coach, even if they are exactly that in the context of the competitions they are playing in. E.G. we won Bledisloe and TRC last year, but most fans think the year was a complete disaster worthy of immediately sacking the coach.
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@Victor-Meldrew @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster, Robertson etc:
Image how much they'd have beaten Robertson's Crusaders by if they'd have been match-fit.... 😎
they didn't stop playing, their home games were in Aus for a few months, and that was last year.
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@Old-Samurai-Jack said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Dan54 Cripes, the silliness of your arguments are mind-blowing. I understand the logical arguments against Razor and they are legit but bloody hell......
Get a bloody humour transplant, it was obviously a pisstake FFS!!!
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@kiwi_expat read above reply to Sumurai, this thread is so old hat, you I really believed that most are taking the proverbial, and not sure how anyone is taking it very seriously .
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@nzzp said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Dan54 Poe's law?
I went back and had a look. I couldn't tell it was a meant to be funny....
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@canefan said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@nzzp said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Dan54 Poe's law?
I went back and had a look. I couldn't tell it was a meant to be funny....
to be fair, neither did I. And that's kind of the point - if it was satire, it fooled a whole lotta people
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@canefan said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@nzzp said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Dan54 Poe's law?
I went back and had a look. I couldn't tell it was a meant to be funny....
Well I have to admit I must try and put laughing face on posts who don't realise that I wouldn't blame Razor for Crusader's dropping a game, I don't normally blame the coach as it's normally the players that lose the games anyway.
Anyway from now on I promise to try and remember that having a half hearted pisstake is going to go well over some's heads.
So apologies to those posters. I sure many of you will be trying to check the height weight ratio that booboo mnetions a couple of posts back!! -
@taniwharugby said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@BerniesCorner the key question about it all, is will we get to 6,000 posts on the topic before then?
so 2 weeks, almost 400 posts, we gonna get to 6,000 easy, I'd wager 5,000 of them are saying the same thing over and over, making this the most repetitive thread ever, surely
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@Dan54 said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Old-Samurai-Jack said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Dan54 Cripes, the silliness of your arguments are mind-blowing. I understand the logical arguments against Razor and they are legit but bloody hell......
Get a bloody humour transplant, it was obviously a pisstake FFS!!!
Uh huh.... It is very telling I can't tell the difference between "a pisstake" and your other arguments in this thread
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@Old-Samurai-Jack said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Dan54 said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Old-Samurai-Jack said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Dan54 Cripes, the silliness of your arguments are mind-blowing. I understand the logical arguments against Razor and they are legit but bloody hell......
Get a bloody humour transplant, it was obviously a pisstake FFS!!!
Uh huh.... It is very telling I can't tell the difference between "a pisstake" and your other arguments in this thread
Repurposing?
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im going to say it...blackadder wasn't as bad a coach as some would have you believe, still had over 60% win record, runners up twice and 4 more playoffs, yes, he was missing what was needed to win it but that 2011 final appearance was a huge achievement on the back of the earthquakes, (no real home games etc) for example
Razor definitely didn't start on the back foot, he has grown significantly but on what was already a pretty string foundation between the crusaders organisation in general and a pretty healthy team (if not champion) under blackadder
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@Old-Samurai-Jack said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Dan54 said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Old-Samurai-Jack said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Dan54 Cripes, the silliness of your arguments are mind-blowing. I understand the logical arguments against Razor and they are legit but bloody hell......
Get a bloody humour transplant, it was obviously a pisstake FFS!!!
Uh huh.... It is very telling I can't tell the difference between "a pisstake" and your other arguments in this thread
That could I actually think most of the thread is a bit of a pisstake,or could say something about one of us anyway mate.
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@Kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson etc:
im going to say it...blackadder wasn't as bad a coach as some would have you believe, still had over 60% win record, runners up twice and 4 more playoffs, yes, he was missing what was needed to win it but that 2011 final appearance was a huge achievement on the back of the earthquakes, (no real home games etc) for example
Razor definitely didn't start on the back foot, he has grown significantly but on what was already a pretty string foundation between the crusaders organisation in general and a pretty healthy team (if not champion) under blackadder
Sorry I can't agree with that,His recruitment was very bad though that period the depth was weak due to no vision/Selecting journeyman who were not contributing very much.
He also lost the AB's in the squad who didn't really take to his coaching. It was the way we played as well some strange game plans in place during his coaching.
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@Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson etc:
im going to say it...blackadder wasn't as bad a coach as some would have you believe, still had over 60% win record, runners up twice and 4 more playoffs, yes, he was missing what was needed to win it but that 2011 final appearance was a huge achievement on the back of the earthquakes, (no real home games etc) for example
Razor definitely didn't start on the back foot, he has grown significantly but on what was already a pretty string foundation between the crusaders organisation in general and a pretty healthy team (if not champion) under blackadder
Sorry I can't agree with that,His recruitment was very bad though that period the depth was weak due to no vision/Selecting journeyman who were not contributing very much.
He also lost the AB's in the squad who didn't really take to his coaching.It was the way we played as well some strange game plans in place during his coaching.
I think it was mess during Blackadder's coaching time.IIRC he had a superior squad than most of Razor's
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@canefan said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson etc:
im going to say it...blackadder wasn't as bad a coach as some would have you believe, still had over 60% win record, runners up twice and 4 more playoffs, yes, he was missing what was needed to win it but that 2011 final appearance was a huge achievement on the back of the earthquakes, (no real home games etc) for example
Razor definitely didn't start on the back foot, he has grown significantly but on what was already a pretty string foundation between the crusaders organisation in general and a pretty healthy team (if not champion) under blackadder
Sorry I can't agree with that,His recruitment was very bad though that period the depth was weak due to no vision/Selecting journeyman who were not contributing very much.
He also lost the AB's in the squad who didn't really take to his coaching.It was the way we played as well some strange game plans in place during his coaching.
I think it was mess during Blackadder's coaching time.IIRC he had a superior squad than most of Razor's
The top 25/26 yes no thanks to Blackadder they were in the system already,but we had some shit 3rd stringers selected who just were not up to it he was terrible at talent spotting.
I got dizzy during that period watching our players go from one sideline to the other and not going forward very often due to old no vision game plans. -
@Kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson etc:
im going to say it...blackadder wasn't as bad a coach as some would have you believe, still had over 60% win record, runners up twice and 4 more playoffs, yes, he was missing what was needed to win it but that 2011 final appearance was a huge achievement on the back of the earthquakes, (no real home games etc) for example
Maybe, but he didn't win a title with the most deep Super squads ever, namely - 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015.
Nadolo, Fruean, Slade, Tom Taylor, Blyeendaal, McCaw, Carter, Flynn, Bird, Laulala, 2 Whitelocks, among those who left after 2015.
2011 final 18/23 of Crusader's lineup were internationals, Marshall was only player in the starting 15 who wasn't an All Black.
2014 final was even more, 21/23 players named in final, only Jimmy Tupou & Ben Funnell on the bench weren't ever capped internationally.
2011 Super Rugby final - Wikipedia