Foster, Robertson etc
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@Steve said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
I agree. All im saying is that these defeats are compounding the decline.
That could have been a scrappy, undeserved series win against a great Irish side if the reffing was consistent.
Instead we have an inept coaching ticket (we already knew that) AND a team that's unravelling confidence and skill wise.
A series win would have papered over the giant cracks in our "systems" right now. The RC/YC situation is a total lottery right now for sure. But we shouldn't have to depend on the ref keeping us in the game or bailing us out. We just look like a disorganised rabble right now
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@gt12 said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Chris said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@nostrildamus said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
People worried that Ian Foster isn't seeing Dunsinane for the trees should avoid reading this article
“We’ve still got a strong belief in the direction we’re going and just because it didn’t come together as quickly as we wanted, it’s not the first time we’ve been slow starters in July. I hate saying that, but it is reality.Can someone enlighten me on this direction that Mr Foster is talking about?
Down the toilet.
Honestly speaking, with Ryan and Schmidt there, you’re not feeling better?
The defence is still a problem, but assuming we get Schmidt’s input there, and a new attack coach, we should be in much better shape.
Would I still prefer Razor there?
Yes, but this is the response I expected.
Yep I do feel better with those 2 there ,
But Foster and McLeod could still stink the whole place out
For me it just seems crazy we are in this position
The NZR dump 2 coaches that were part of Fosters original group that got the vote to take the ABs to the WC,now 2 are gone because they were shit and Ryan comes in originally one of Razors coaching group.
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@Chris said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@gt12 said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Chris said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@nostrildamus said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
People worried that Ian Foster isn't seeing Dunsinane for the trees should avoid reading this article
“We’ve still got a strong belief in the direction we’re going and just because it didn’t come together as quickly as we wanted, it’s not the first time we’ve been slow starters in July. I hate saying that, but it is reality.Can someone enlighten me on this direction that Mr Foster is talking about?
Down the toilet.
Honestly speaking, with Ryan and Schmidt there, you’re not feeling better?
The defence is still a problem, but assuming we get Schmidt’s input there, and a new attack coach, we should be in much better shape.
Would I still prefer Razor there?
Yes, but this is the response I expected.
Yep I do feel better with those 2 there ,
But Foster and McLeod could still stink the whole place out
For me it just seems crazy we are in this position
The NZR dump 2 coaches that were part of Fosters original group that got the vote to take the ABs to the WC,now 2 are gone because they were shit and Ryan comes in originally one of Razors coaching group.
Complete and utter mess.As I’ve mentioned earlier, I think it’s NZRU’s way of essentially guaranteeing Razor the job from 2024. Assuming Ryan reviews well, he stays and Razor now has consistency in his coaching team.
If Razor gets Schmidt on board, he’s home and hosed.
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@gt12 said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Chris said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@gt12 said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Chris said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@nostrildamus said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
People worried that Ian Foster isn't seeing Dunsinane for the trees should avoid reading this article
“We’ve still got a strong belief in the direction we’re going and just because it didn’t come together as quickly as we wanted, it’s not the first time we’ve been slow starters in July. I hate saying that, but it is reality.Can someone enlighten me on this direction that Mr Foster is talking about?
Down the toilet.
Honestly speaking, with Ryan and Schmidt there, you’re not feeling better?
The defence is still a problem, but assuming we get Schmidt’s input there, and a new attack coach, we should be in much better shape.
Would I still prefer Razor there?
Yes, but this is the response I expected.
Yep I do feel better with those 2 there ,
But Foster and McLeod could still stink the whole place out
For me it just seems crazy we are in this position
The NZR dump 2 coaches that were part of Fosters original group that got the vote to take the ABs to the WC,now 2 are gone because they were shit and Ryan comes in originally one of Razors coaching group.
Complete and utter mess.As I’ve mentioned earlier, I think it’s NZRU’s way of essentially guaranteeing Razor the job from 2024. Assuming Ryan reviews well, he stays and Razor now has consistency in his coaching team.
If Razor gets Schmidt on board, he’s home and hosed.
I really hope you are right.
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@Chris said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@gt12 said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Chris said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@gt12 said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Chris said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@nostrildamus said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
People worried that Ian Foster isn't seeing Dunsinane for the trees should avoid reading this article
“We’ve still got a strong belief in the direction we’re going and just because it didn’t come together as quickly as we wanted, it’s not the first time we’ve been slow starters in July. I hate saying that, but it is reality.Can someone enlighten me on this direction that Mr Foster is talking about?
Down the toilet.
Honestly speaking, with Ryan and Schmidt there, you’re not feeling better?
The defence is still a problem, but assuming we get Schmidt’s input there, and a new attack coach, we should be in much better shape.
Would I still prefer Razor there?
Yes, but this is the response I expected.
Yep I do feel better with those 2 there ,
But Foster and McLeod could still stink the whole place out
For me it just seems crazy we are in this position
The NZR dump 2 coaches that were part of Fosters original group that got the vote to take the ABs to the WC,now 2 are gone because they were shit and Ryan comes in originally one of Razors coaching group.
Complete and utter mess.As I’ve mentioned earlier, I think it’s NZRU’s way of essentially guaranteeing Razor the job from 2024. Assuming Ryan reviews well, he stays and Razor now has consistency in his coaching team.
If Razor gets Schmidt on board, he’s home and hosed.
I really hope you are right.
As you’ve seen from my posts on the Chief’s threads, I’m an eternal optimist
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@Chester-Draws said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
I half expect Foster to move on, but Robertson to not be appointed. That has been, after all, the NZR way for decades now.
I suspect Robinson's seemingly all-or-nothing demands and refusing to become an Assistant Coach hasn't played well with NZR and they have concerns about his being a team player. It's poor optics for the public as well.
But then, imagine the meltdown on here if Robertson
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@Victor-Meldrew I think there would be a meltdown on the Fern straight away if Robinson was appointed Head Coach.
Robertson on the hand ....
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@Stargazer maybe Mark Robinson really has been the head coach all along ...
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@Stargazer said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Victor-Meldrew I think there would be a meltdown on the Fern straight away if Robinson was appointed Head Coach.
Robertson on the hand ....
I should have called him Razor the Saviour to avoid any confusion or misunderstanding...
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Stargazer said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Victor-Meldrew I think there would be a meltdown on the Fern straight away if Robinson was appointed Head Coach.
Robertson on the hand ....
I should have called him Razor the Saviour to avoid any confusion or misunderstanding...
I like it Razor the saviour
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@Victor-Meldrew Mmm.. can you confirm where you got this information from? Razor's "seemingly all-or-nothing demands and refusing to become an Assistant Coach". Not having a go but, bugger me, they are hell of assumptions.
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Vic on what basis?
If I was Razor I wouldn't put my name down as assistant.
I wouldn't put my name down as captain either.
The top tier needs sorting.The next 6 weeks is going to be super interesting. Hope the Fern server has plenty of HD space
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Chester-Draws said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
I half expect Foster to move on, but Robertson to not be appointed. That has been, after all, the NZR way for decades now.
I suspect Robinson's seemingly all-or-nothing demands and refusing to become an Assistant Coach hasn't played well with NZR and they have concerns about his being a team player. It's poor optics for the public as well.
But then, imagine the meltdown on here if Robertson
Robinsonis appointed over and we get a repeat his 2016 U20 "success"...That anti Razor drum you keep beating must be getting pretty worn out.
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@Victor-Meldrew 2019 Vic! Here is my assumption which is I believe equally valid. Razor hasn't heard diddly squat from anyone in NZR the entire time. Absolutely nothing. The only information he has is from friends like MacDonald and Ryan who are keeping him up to date as to their own movements.
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@pukunui said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
That anti Razor drum you keep beating must be getting pretty worn out.
Que?
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Vic your memory is still in good shape
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@Victor-Meldrew why would Razor want to be assistant coach to somebody with a worse record? Anyway that was 2019. Considering 2 assistant coaches just lost their jobs and likely ever chance to be head AB coach I'd say he was on the money. Not being a team player? Don't think I have heard such murmurs from either the Crusaders or coaches who worked with him!
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
Any source more recent? I know there is lots of talk, but do we even know if Robinson and Razor have been in contact?
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@nostrildamus said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Victor-Meldrew why would Razor want to be assistant coach to somebody with a worse record? Anyway that was 2019. Considering 2 assistant coaches just lost their jobs and likely ever chance to be head AB coach I'd say he was on the money. Not being a team player? Don't think I have heard such murmurs from either the Crusaders or coaches who worked with him!
Bloody hell. I wasn't attacking him or anyone else - I was simply making the point that perhaps Razor The Saviour publicly saying he didn't want an Assistant role, and it was all or nothing, didn't go down well with the head honcho's of NZR at the time. They might have seen him and continue to see him - rightly or wrongly - as not a team player. Just an observation.
But if you're right, and he wouldn't work with anyone he sees as inferior to him, then how would that play with the NZR chieftains do you think?
