All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider
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@voodoo said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@Darren said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
Seeing some strange odds here
AB's 1-12 2.6
AB's 12+ 2.15Ireland 1-12 5
Ireland 12+ 12I'm thinking in my mind Ireland are at least the same odds if not favorites for this.
I might throw a few bucks on Ireland 12+Never. Ever. Bet against the ABs. It's not a win/win, it's just a lose/lose.
You'll feel dirty, unclean, ashamed. Your family will disown you, your parents disinherit you. Your kids will refuse to acknowledge you.
Worst of all, you risk a ban from the Fern.
You will die early, poor and alone, unable to erase the memory of the time that you lost $5 when the mighty ABs beat the cocky Irish pretenders by 21 points.
I'd pay $5 to see a 21 point win.
But are they cocky if they say they'll win and they do? -
If we lose , is it possible to move out of the top 4 rankings ?
Can you imagine that ? an allblack team not in the top 4 teams in the world .
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That is not going to change. Rugby is not a fast paced game at international level. Sure it can be dynamic when ball is in play but you can’t run a team off it’s feet anymore at the top level. Refs are too worried about player safety and they will stop for any minor incident and won’t question it.
It’s why teams from the NH and SA are bulking their players up and contracting on collisions whereas Fozzie (and Hansen before him) wants mobile forwards trying to run teams off their feet and we conserve energy waiting for the last 20 minutes where we fatigue a side but it just doesn’t come anymore.
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We may not have been top 4 in 94.
If that does happen then the NZR really has to act. Their new VC partners will certainly be asking why they are not protecting their investment if the don’t.
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@DaGrubster said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
We may not have been top 4 in 94.
If that does happen then the NZR really has to act. Their new VC partners will certainly be asking why they are not protecting their investment if the don’t.
I think it would be a sign how far we have slipped , losses do happen ,and thats acceptable ,
but the rankings are a sign how frequently they are happening , and I think that would be unacceptable
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@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@DaGrubster said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
We may not have been top 4 in 94.
If that does happen then the NZR really has to act. Their new VC partners will certainly be asking why they are not protecting their investment if the don’t.
I think it would be a sign how far we have slipped , losses do happen ,and thats acceptable ,
but the rankings are a sign how frequently they are happening , and I think that would be unacceptable
i could even handle the losses if the performance was better
yes, i know teams usually lose because the other team takes them away from their plan/applies pressure/makes you play poorly
but it is without arrogance i say that there is an enormous amount of self-inflicted crap going on in AB rugby at the moment. And that is hugely disappointing.
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@mariner4life agreed, i remember thinking the lose to SA last year was actually a very enjoyable game to watch, just disappointed in the result but enjoyed the game.....havent enjoyed many since
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@Frank said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
I feel weird.
Not sure I want the ABs to win.................cos......................i hope we flog fuck through them, and all the players that piss me off turn in absolute blinders.
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@DaGrubster the soundbite I heard this morning is that 4th is the lowest we have ever been since the rankings have been a thing.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@Frank said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
I feel weird.
Not sure I want the ABs to win.................cos......................i hope we flog fuck through them, and all the players that piss me off turn in absolute blinders.
Yeah I mostly feel that way too. But I am conflicted. A hiding (or even a win) would just paper over the cracks and we will continue to stumble along to further disappointment.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@Frank said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
I feel weird.
Not sure I want the ABs to win.................cos......................i hope we flog fuck through them, and all the players that piss me off turn in absolute blinders.
yeah, would love a different 15 than named to run out...play a worldie...80m of every time the cut to foozie seeing him scream about know knowing whats going on and then in the speeches after someone just says they realised they knew more than Foozie so took things into their own hands...
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@DaGrubster the soundbite I heard this morning is that 4th is the lowest we have ever been since the rankings have been a thing.
i bet no player knows this
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@DaGrubster the soundbite I heard this morning is that 4th is the lowest we have ever been since the rankings have been a thing.
i bet no player knows this
Can't hear through their big headphones
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@canefan said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@DaGrubster the soundbite I heard this morning is that 4th is the lowest we have ever been since the rankings have been a thing.
i bet no player knows this
Can't hear through their big headphones
gotta focus on Origin bro
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@DaGrubster the soundbite I heard this morning is that 4th is the lowest we have ever been since the rankings have been a thing.
i bet no player knows this
Can't hear through their big headphones
gotta focus on Origin bro
i hear its pretty good...maybe we should watch that instead
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@DaGrubster the soundbite I heard this morning is that 4th is the lowest we have ever been since the rankings have been a thing.
i bet no player knows this
Can't hear through their big headphones
gotta focus on Origin bro
I always remember Big Mal after Canberra's first NRL win. Thru tears he said "It's bigger than playing for Australia, bigger than playing for QLD".
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@canefan said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@DaGrubster the soundbite I heard this morning is that 4th is the lowest we have ever been since the rankings have been a thing.
i bet no player knows this
Can't hear through their big headphones
gotta focus on Origin bro
I always remember Big Mal after Canberra's first NRL win. Thru tears he said "It's bigger than playing for Australia, bigger than playing for QLD".
(aside: i saw an old video of Mal the other week scoring an 80m runaway. beat the first tackler because he was massive, then i forgot how fucking quick he was for a huge unit. just an awesome player).
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@DaGrubster the soundbite I heard this morning is that 4th is the lowest we have ever been since the rankings have been a thing.
i bet no player knows this
Another fault of the coaches.
