All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test
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@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
@chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
This scoreline flatters us, they should have been up by 15 at half time.
A better attacking team would have hurt us a lot more
Shoe on the other foot and it would be close to 50
Y’know, I think they’d have won this without the red card, but with that hanging over it, we might not learn our lesson.
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Not on here that often anymore. Life is just busy but have to say that I am just amazed that Ian Foster is the All Black coach. This team has looked mundane for the last few years. I am not from Canterbury but I am amazed that they chose him over Razor Robertson. Not sure how he has been recently as I have not watching the domestic game but he was a hell of a coach. Ian foster has never been any good IMHO. We are in for a few more years of shit and look nowhere like world cup winners. Anyway it's just a thought.
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We have made far too many mistakes, given away too many penalties and our lack of territory has all culminated in a poor performance.
Ireland have respected the ball more than us, played better territory and disrupted our width game.
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Another rest to halt momentum when will someone wake up to this
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This really is utter shit. It's a calamity of bullshit from the word go. Terrible decision making, absolutely no structure, and some sort of rancid belief that if we just keep throwing miracle balls one will stick and it'll be a magic moment.
No. That is NOT how you compete, let alone win in tests like this. The Ireland defence is far far too strong for that. It's heavily structured, incredibly well drilled, and it doesn't fall for bullshit.
Peyper, has quite rightly, ref'd us off the park.
As is so often the case, the main issue has been leadership. From everywhere. We miss Sam Whitelock so much, he wouldn't stand for this shit. Cane, where are you? What are you doing? Are you even trying to get this shit back under control? It certainly doesn't fucking look like it.
Oh, and the icing. The absolute icing on the cake. All Black management are so fucking thick they didn't know that once Ardie was off, he can't come back in. So he should never have been taken off. In an evening chock full of sackable offences, nothing is more than that one.
Fucking idiots.
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@gibbon-rib said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
@chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
I think we beat Oz 6-3 or something a long time ago but when we the last time we only scored 7 in a game at home.
1998 - NZ 3 SA 13
I was at that game I think. It sucked.
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It's the same old, same old, flaky-under-pressure crap we've had in the last 5 years. Some moments of genius, some players stepping up, but mostly headless chicken stuff.
Saying a complete clear-out is needed can be a bit of a cop-out and simplistic, but it's needed.
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@antipodean said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
Someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but this may be our worst home score in the professional era.
If only there was an easy place to check: link
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
It's the same old, same old, flaky-under-pressure crap we've had in the last 5 years. Some moments of genius, some players stepping up, but mostly headless chicken stuff.
Saying a complete clear-out is needed can be a bit of a cop-out and simplistic, but it's needed.
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Low percentage bs options from the ABs too often
Grumpy AF regarding some of the officiating... Very in consistent at best from TMO and ARs
That said we've shelled the ball repeatedly and kicking and tactics have been poor.
Ireland have been cynical and whinging from the get go...and that's all I'll say about them.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:
It's the same old, same old, flaky-under-pressure crap we've had in the last 5 years. Some moments of genius, some players stepping up, but mostly headless chicken stuff.
Saying a complete clear-out is needed can be a bit of a cop-out and simplistic, but it's needed.
The coaching continuity thing has run its course. It was good while it lasted. NZ needs some new coaching leadership.