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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    replied to Stargazer on last edited by Duluth
    #570

    @Stargazer These are the 2021 rules, but it says

    Have been named in the match day 23 on at least one occasion in the current
    regular season. If a Player from outside the teams official squad hasn’t been
    named in the match day 23 on at least one occasion in the current regular
    season, then in order to be eligible to play in the Final they must seek (and
    be granted) dispensation from the respective National Union and SANZAR.
    Such dispensation will only be granted in exceptional circumstances where,
    for example, the ability of the Team to name a match day 23 is compromised
    by injuries to otherwise eligible players in that Player’s position and health and
    safety considerations.

    https://www.nzrugby.co.nz/assets/Uploads/Super-Rugby-Trans- Ta$man-2021-Section-3-Competition-Rules.pdf

    I doubt the Crusaders would have bothered flying in Afoa if they weren't going to be able to use him in the play-offs?

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    #571

    Louie Chapman off the Bench this week.

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    @Duluth They have done that with Sykes-Martin. Seb Calder is also an Academy player. And now Rueben O'Neill.

    There's not that much choice. They've been scraping an empty barrel. Several NZ props that would have otherwise been called upon, are now playing in the MLR.

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    #573

    @Winger said in Crusaders 2023:

    And the Crusaders will just have to do what other teams do. Make do with players they have got. And if they are short of prop's tough luck. They have had enough warning to bring in the best NPC props to get them up to speed. Canes often make do with rubbish players. Like our replacement hooker.

    Sour grapes much? How about some praise for the Super Coach's performance in the face of such adversity? How many injuries, a record number for any SR squad ever?

    And yet Razor still has the team at 2nd despite having to resort to Chiefs region discards like Dylan Nel & Ruben O'Neill. If he can win the title from this position it will be a revered achievement comparable to the Highlander's scalp of 2015.

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    replied to Chris B. on last edited by
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    @Chris-B Yeah, that's what I was thinking, but I remembered that Messam case and then there's that media article. So now I'm not so sure what the rules are at the moment.

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    @Stargazer Have you seen Afoa being unavailable anywhere but that Newshub article? If not, I'm not going to treat it as gospel.

    With Hotham gone, we probably have to give Chapman a run to ensure he's eligible for the play-offs.

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    replied to Chris B. on last edited by
    #576

    @Chris-B
    Chapman is on the bench this week.

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    replied to Chris on last edited by
    #577

    @Chris Yeah - that's what I mean.

    Razor probably had to name him - in case either of Drummie or Heinz gets injured in the play-offs.

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    replied to Chris B. on last edited by
    #578

    @Chris-B

    Heinz still injured.

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    #579

    @Chris Ah right - in that case he just had to name him!

    Hopefully, Willie is fit for next week.

    My call on Scott Barrett to 6 for the play-offs growing some legs! 🙂

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    @Chris-B correct Afoa and Crotty will not b available for playoffs had to have been in squad by round 9 is my understanding

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    #581

    @Chris-B

    Blackadder and Jager should be back next week not sure about Heinz.

    Gardiner I am not sure about I haven’t heard he is injured.

    I think Afoa will be able to play Finals due to having all those injuries Afoa was 4 th choice replacement behind Calder,Skyes -Martin and O’Neill.

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    @Chris on Afoa he won't b involved in finals as overseas player I understand they would have to get nz based player and good to see John signing for BOP, I do wonder tho if that's a bit of a loop hole for crusaders but probably not ?

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    #583

    @george33
    Unless they have sought a dispensation but not sure of that.

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    @Chris said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

    @george33
    Unless they have sought a dispensation but not sure of that.

    You would assume they had.

    To be honest, I'd like him available, even if it means you fluffybunnies go much further.

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    #585

    Despite injuries, Crusaders remain on course for 2nd spot ahead of Super Rugby Pacific playoffs

    Despite injuries, Crusaders remain on course for 2nd spot ahead of Super Rugby Pacific playoffs

    A lesser team than the Christchurch-based Crusaders might have been laid low by the barrage of injuries and other setbacks which have dogged the latter part of the regular season in Super Rugby Pacific. The defending champion Crusaders have lost three All Blacks props to injury during the course...

    Havili and Grace both are out for the rest of the Super Rugby season, bringing to nine the number of Crusaders players who will miss the playoffs. At the same time Afoa and Crotty likely won’t be eligible because rules require players to have played in New Zealand by April 1 to qualify for the playoffs.

    The Crusaders could apply for dispensation to play Afoa if they do not have a full complement of props.

    “There are obligations for us to put a team out that’s safe and players are ready.” Crusaders coach Scott Robertson said. “Essentially the rule is someone who has played in New Zealand before April 1 is eligible to play for finals and John (Afoa) definitely wasn’t that.”

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    #586

    @Chris-B said in Crusaders 2023:

    Essentially the rule is someone who has played in New Zealand before April 1 is eligible to play for finals and John (Afoa) definitely wasn’t that.”

    Thanks for posting. Pleased there is a rule like this. So Afoa shouldn't be available.

    “There are obligations for us to put a team out that’s safe and players are ready.” Crusaders coach Scott Robertson said.

    Yes Scott. There is. But expect to hear a lot about safety now. Rather than we just didn't like the quality of eligible props that were available.

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    #587

    Newsflash - The Crusaders do something and certain posters on the Fern put a negative spin on it.

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    #588

    MP will have some props available soon. Pole, for example, has played for the Crusaders before.

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    replied to kiwi_expat on last edited by nostrildamus
    #589

    @kiwi_expat said in Crusaders 2023:

    If he can win the title from this position it will be a revered achievement comparable to the Highlander's scalp of 2015.

    I'll just get the marble and chisel out then. Genuflections will follow the sainthood ceremony.

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