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    @ACT-Crusader Also from a cost perspective, that's the sensible thing to do.

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    Anyone who doesn't make the AB XV might find themselves in the Barbarian team if Razor is still the Barbarian coach by then.

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    Possible squad :

    Eklund, Aumua, Thompson (McAllister, Vikena eventual bolters)

    Norris, Williams, Jager, Newell, Ainsley

    Gallagher, Sangster, IWL, PPP (if fit)

    MMT, Robinson, Harmon, Suafoa, Grace + an openside (Gibson, Christie ?)

    Weber, Ratima, TJP

    Ioane + AN other (Morgan, Love, Gatland, Burke, Gilbert ?)

    TUJ, PUJ, Nankivell + AN other (Sullivan, Proctor, Evans, Savea ?)

    Telea, Stevenson, Lam, Sullivan, Moorby (DMac ?)

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    @cgrant I hope Flanders is in the equation, too, although the Canes' selection policy and his injury late in the season haven't done him any favours. I guess it may depend on whether Grace will be in the ABs EOYT squad, as he should be. Otherwise, he may have to wait a year.

    Bailyn Sullivan should not be listed under "AN other". I'd pick him over PUJ.

    And whether we like it or not, Ennor is a near certainty for this team, unless he's in the ABs to stay. As a midfielder or a wing, or a utitlity back.

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    @cgrant too many players. There will be unselected players in the AB squad who will be able to get an AB XV game.

    My mix would be something like below if the ABs take their standard size squad.

    5x props
    3x hookers
    3x locks
    4x loose forwards
    2x halfbacks
    2x 1st 5s
    3x midfielders
    3x outside backs

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    @ACT-Crusader Yep, that makes a lot of sense.

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    It will be hard to move players from the ABs to the AB XV as there will be clashes with the AB tests against Scotland and England.

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    @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV:

    It will be hard to move players from the ABs to the AB XV as there will be clashes with the AB tests against Scotland and England.

    On game day you have your selected 23 plus a few others should there be injuries in the warmups. But not every one of the 12 or 13 would be on standby once the 23 is selected. The fact they are on the same weekend shouldn’t matter.

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    @ACT-Crusader If the AB XV are taking these games seriously, which I am sure they will be, they would want all the players that are going to play each game to be training together that week. That means the ABs not having those players for the full week.

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    @Bovidae Isn't one match in Scotland while the other one that weekend is at Tottenham Hotspurs stadium in North London? So group should be split up geographically anyway. Or do I have my fixture calendar wrong?

    Maybe they are trying to hook up a new support base in a football hot-spot with a mix of rugby and breakdancing?

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    @ARHS said in All Blacks XV:

    @Bovidae Isn't one match in Scotland while the other one that weekend is at Tottenham Hotspurs stadium in North London? So group should be split up geographically anyway. Or do I have my fixture calendar wrong?

    Correct. The ABs play Scotland on the same day as the Baabaas game. The AB XV still has 2 additional fixtures to add, one likely to be between Canada and the Barbarians.

    v Canada, Saturday 29 October, venue TBC
    v Barbarians, Sunday 13 November, Tottenham Stadium, London

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    @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV:

    I'd like to know how much communication there has been (in both directions) between NZR and Robertson. I wouldn't be surprised if Robertson decided to accept the Baabaas offer without NZR knowing, which then ruled him out of the AB XV coaching position.

    Or just maybe there more money in coaching BaaBaas, from everything I have ever read it pretty lucrative to play etc for them, as most money just goes back to team etc, and basically it's s few training runs, and a fair bit of team building? Sometimes it really works , didn't the BaaBaas just beat Poms 52 -21 a few weeks back?

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    @cgrant said in All Blacks XV:

    Possible squad :

    Eklund, Aumua, Thompson (McAllister, Vikena eventual bolters)

    Norris, Williams, Jager, Newell, Ainsley

    Gallagher, Sangster, IWL, PPP (if fit)

    MMT, Robinson, Harmon, Suafoa, Grace + an openside (Gibson, Christie ?)

    Weber, Ratima, TJP

    Ioane + AN other (Morgan, Love, Gatland, Burke, Gilbert ?)

    TUJ, PUJ, Nankivell + AN other (Sullivan, Proctor, Evans, Savea ?)

    Telea, Stevenson, Lam, Sullivan, Moorby (DMac ?)

    Doesn't look bad, and probably not too far off, I am not absolutely convinced about Moorby (I a Canes man), and if DMac not in ABs, he would be in there ahead of him. Also think PGS will be in loosies!

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    @cgrant Lomax, Ennor and Dickson.

    Quinten Strange.

    Timoci Tavatavanawai still possible, I think.

    Mitch Hunt as likely as some you've listed.

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    George Bridge? Or he might be with the BaaBaas.

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    @Nevorian I guess it depends on whether he stays in NZ or signs with an overseas' club. If he signs with a NZ franchise, he may be in the All Blacks XV; if he signs overseas, he may be in the Baabaas.

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    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/129369614/all-blacks-xv-side-poised-to-face-south-africa-a-as-nz-rugby-builds-bridges

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    I'm reading this side will play a South African XV.

    edit - covered above.

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    @Tim said in All Blacks XV:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/129369614/all-blacks-xv-side-poised-to-face-south-africa-a-as-nz-rugby-builds-bridges

    Sounds like Robinson did another great communication job reassuring the disappointed saffa Super teams that the reason why we cut down our SR comp was only due to covid and that when things normalised we would be keen to resume hostilities... 🙄

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    @Chris-B said in All Blacks XV:

    @cgrant Lomax, Ennor and Dickson.

    Quinten Strange.

    Timoci Tavatavanawai still possible, I think.

    Mitch Hunt as likely as some you've listed.

    If eligible Fabian Holland instead of Quinten Strange🙂

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