Ireland tour to NZ 2022
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@Kruse said in Ireland tour to NZ 2022:
@Kruse said in Ireland tour to NZ 2022:
@Crucial said in Ireland tour to NZ 2022:
@NZbloke said in Ireland tour to NZ 2022:
@Chris-B said in Ireland tour to NZ 2022:
@MiketheSnow Hope they can (recharge)!
We need to know whether the boot was on the other foot last year when - despite the scoreboard - they inflicted one of the most comprehensive defeats I can remember.
We may have been running on fumes - but, also we may not have been.
Part of it was playing at the end of a long year, but we were very poor in the forwards anyway, Ireland were much better there so controlled the match... the key area for the ABs is the breakdown area where most of the possession is contested, in the first test we've got to be very aggressive at the breakdown from the start, have solid set pieces & hopefully our playmakers at halfback & 1st-five make good decisions.
You're teasing an experimental AI.
5 months of cliched comments, regurgitated drunken-pub-rugby/cricket-commentary, and bland... nothingness... just ... let it go. There there, yes... win the breakdown, earn the right to send it out wide, yes, yes... discipline at the crease, leave the good balls, hit the bad balls, yes, yes, ... well done everybody.
(And... to be fair... it's great. It's kinda cool having those blank spaces when reading a thread... it's kinda like a rest in the conversation when somebody's bint girlfriend insists on reading the horoscopes... before smiling, patting her on the head, and then continuing.)Shit - I only just saw the pile-on in the All Blacks 2022 thread. Now I kinda feel bad.
The poor bugger certainly copped a bit.
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@ACT-Crusader He's only played the odd game at lock to fill gaps. He moves between 6 and 8 for munster. Ireland are bringing 6 locks already if you include Baird who's listed as a back row so I'd say we're unlikely to see Coombes at lock.
I'm expecting a back row against the Maori of:
6. Baird/Prendergast
7. Timoney
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@Tim said in Ireland tour to NZ 2022:
@Kruse The guy was a troll who posted through IP addresses in multiple countries. You absolutely did the right thing.
Cheers, that assuages the guilt a bit.
I do regret that I never got to see the responses to my very, VERY drunken post.
But still, he seemed like just a simpleton, with genuine (albeit cliche-d) passion for the sports for which we all share love.
The occasional injection of "Rugby Championship is just friendlies", "Prime Botha would kill you all", and "<constant bland pub-level commentary>" users - injects humour into this place.
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@Kruse said in Ireland tour to NZ 2022:
I do regret that I never got to see the responses to my very, VERY drunken post.
Mate, I have made many of those, and it's normally better if you don't see them.
When a guy posts a picture of a can of Export Gold in the beer thread, and does some weird thing of posting the dumbest shit form multiple VPN accounts, we should have banned him long ago.
Question is, why did so many of you idiots try to argue with a troll?
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@Tim said in Ireland tour to NZ 2022:
@Kruse said in Ireland tour to NZ 2022:
I do regret that I never got to see the responses to my very, VERY drunken post.
Mate, I have made many of those, and it's normally better if you don't see them.
When a guy posts a picture of a can of Export Gold in the beer thread, and does some weird thing of posting the dumbest shit form multiple VPN accounts, we should have banned him long ago.
Question is, why did so many of you idiots try to argue with a troll?
That was my exact point. SO many people engaging with that thing, across many threads. I was very confused by it, and then, one night, just got drunk, and tried to make that point, but in an extremely offensive fashion.
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@Tim said in Ireland tour to NZ 2022:
@Kruse said in Ireland tour to NZ 2022:
I do regret that I never got to see the responses to my very, VERY drunken post.
Mate, I have made many of those, and it's normally better if you don't see them.
When a guy posts a picture of a can of Export Gold in the beer thread, and does some weird thing of posting the dumbest shit form multiple VPN accounts, we should have banned him long ago.
Question is, why did so many of you idiots try to argue with a troll?
I engaged with him because I also tried to bring him in to the fold and up his game. A little “coaching” with some ribbing to start with and yeah he just came across as a bit simple and tone deaf.
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@Higgins said in Ireland tour to NZ 2022:
@Dan54 said in Ireland tour to NZ 2022:
So Josh Lord out of Abs for season, knees is ACL or something, and not replacing him in Irish series squad.
No reason to as the versatile skyscraper Ardie Savea is more than adequate to cover lock.
Well anyone knows 4 locks is plenty for a 3 test series!!
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@Dan54 said in Ireland tour to NZ 2022:
@Higgins said in Ireland tour to NZ 2022:
@Dan54 said in Ireland tour to NZ 2022:
So Josh Lord out of Abs for season, knees is ACL or something, and not replacing him in Irish series squad.
No reason to as the versatile skyscraper Ardie Savea is more than adequate to cover lock.
Well anyone knows 4 locks is plenty for a 3 test series!!
Locks are fine. It's our shitty props I'm worried about.
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@Machpants said in Ireland tour to NZ 2022:
@Dan54 said in Ireland tour to NZ 2022:
@Higgins said in Ireland tour to NZ 2022:
@Dan54 said in Ireland tour to NZ 2022:
So Josh Lord out of Abs for season, knees is ACL or something, and not replacing him in Irish series squad.
No reason to as the versatile skyscraper Ardie Savea is more than adequate to cover lock.
Well anyone knows 4 locks is plenty for a 3 test series!!
Locks are fine. It's our shitty props I'm worried about.
Wouldn't worry about that. Furlong and Porter are both off their game, and after them, there's nobody.
Surprised other teams have not worked this out before now. This July it's coming home to roost - the famed prop development programme has ground to a halt.
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@Derm-McCrum Tom O'Toole looked rock solid at scrum time against Kitshoff in the URC semi. He's very young for a tighthead so has a very bright future ahead. Bealham has never let us down either.
I agree on the loose head side our depth is poor. However i think Porter will have an easier time against the all blacks than he did in the champions Cup against Toulouse and La Rochelle. He is steadily improving since moving to loose head so I'd be optimistic in another 2 years time our prop situation will have improved.
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@Ludraman said in Ireland tour to NZ 2022:
@Derm-McCrum Tom O'Toole looked rock solid at scrum time against Kitshoff in the URC semi. He's very young for a tighthead so has a very bright future ahead. Bealham has never let us down either.
I agree on the loose head side our depth is poor. However i think Porter will have an easier time against the all blacks than he did in the champions Cup against Toulouse and La Rochelle. He is steadily improving since moving to loose head so I'd be optimistic in another 2 years time our prop situation will have improved.
You're right - O'Toole and Loughman both need to come of age on this tour - there is that developmental side to the tour and squad that will be interesting.
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This might be read as interesting or completely boil yer piss.
Take it away, Gerry Thornley, rugby corr with The Irish Times.
Gerry Thornley: The strength of Irish rugby is a minor miracle given how few play it
Expectations need to be reset, because Ireland is not a big nation in any team sport
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@Derm-McCrum Interesting how he points out that the isalnds sort of add another pile of registered players, but doesn't mention that NZ provides the majority of players for both Tonga and Samoa! But this idea that rugby is number one is very outdated, old like most of the posters here. "rugby is the number one sport, the equivalent of Gaelic football, hurling and soccer, as well as rugby, rolled into one" In player numbers rugby is behind soccer, and in popularity behind basketball in youth.
But Ireland certainly punches above it's weight, NZ too, and England underperforms.
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@Machpants said in Ireland tour to NZ 2022:
@Derm-McCrum Interesting how he points out that the isalnds sort of add another pile of registered players, but doesn't mention that NZ provides the majority of players for both Tonga and Samoa! But this idea that rugby is number one is very outdated, old like most of the posters here. "rugby is the number one sport, the equivalent of Gaelic football, hurling and soccer, as well as rugby, rolled into one" In player numbers rugby is behind soccer, and in popularity behind basketball in youth.
But Ireland certainly punches above it's weight, NZ too, and England underperforms.
Stats and lies.
Soccer Football has out ranked rugby in NZ for a long time as far as player numbers go. Their problem (and one rugby is fast catching up with) is the massive drop off of participation post school age.
The causes are slightly different with football being the young persons 'safe' sporting option which is only done to participate and rugby having low attraction to the club rugby layer post school if players haven't attracted professional interest. -
Brutal TAB ad campaign to remind Irish of record against All Blacks
Bragging about the All Blacks. Does this ad campaign go too far?
All Blacks-Ireland rugby test series: TAB ad campaign seeks to stir pot by poking fun at Irish record Ben Leahy Reporter, NZ Herald Ireland's touring rugby side are set to be reminded at every turn they have never won in New Zealand as part of a controversial marketing campaign likely to rile a few feathers. The ads will focus on the All Blacks intimidating track record at home as New Zealand and Ireland face off in a three-test-match series, kicking-off at Eden Park on July 2. Sports betting agency TAB NZ plans to post billboards in each New Zealand host city, with some located close to the Irish team's hotels and others on the routes they will travel to get to training and the games. One billboard simply states: "0 wins in NZ". Ouch. That's the amount of times Ireland has won in New Zealand. Another billboard states: "Think the flight was long? Try a 28-year unbeaten streak at Eden Park". A reminder that no international team has beaten the All Blacks in Auckland since 1994. The ads aim to intimidate the Irish and stoke New Zealand pride, but some might question whether the bold bravado could backfire and even if such shameless bragging is the Kiwi way. TAB NZ said the billboards are simply sharing "helpful facts" with the visitors. "From when they arrive in New Zealand until the moment they step onto the field, TAB NZ will be there to remind them that their odds aren't looking good," the company's general manager Marketing and Customer Experience Jodi Williams said. "You have to go all the way back to 1994 to find the last time the All Blacks had a loss at the Garden of Eden. That was the same year Forrest Gump hit the big screen, and Friends began its glittering 10-season run on TV." She said Ireland's three test matches in New Zealand gave them a lot of minutes to truly weigh up their odds of winning. The campaign comes as the two teams have clashed on 33 occasions. The first match was in 1905 but regular test matches between the two nations only kicked off in the 1970s. Out of those 33 matches, Ireland has only ever won three tests and drawn one. However, the Irish odds look remarkably better when taken on recent form. TAB NZ plans to post the billboards on roads where the Irish team will travel and even close to their team hotel. Out of the last five tests played between the two nations, Ireland has a 3-2 winning record, with two wins on Irish soil and one win in the US. That included the Irish winning the last match between the two sides 29-20 in Ireland last November. Ireland also had a second-place finish behind France in the 2022 Six Nations on 4 wins and 1 loss. TAB NZ's Williams said that despite the cheeky ad campaign her team like everyone else was looking forward to the contest. Ireland's James Lowe scores a try past All Black Jordie Barrett on the way to an Irish victory on home soil last year. "Based on Ireland's strong showing in this year's Six Nations, this should be a great three-test series that will keep fans of both sides on the edge of their seats," she saidAbsolutely shameless from the TAB. They nearly always take a bath when the All Blacks win so they're trying to stir the Irish into a victory or 2. Writing the motivational speeches for them if you will. Pretty cynical if you ask me.
