Origin 2022
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of course, as is tradition with origin, unless it's a blow out, the losing coach must whinge about the ref.
Klein was fucking dogshit, but both ways. Some of his calls, and then no calls, were mystifying. And some of the calls were the opposite of what would happen in club land too. Must have been pretty frustrating as a player.
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@mariner4life said in Origin 2022:
What will be overlooked is the work to keep out Qld when Hunt made that last break, that was game over but NSW kept turning up in the right spot.
Think from memory it was RCG, who turned up twice, once on the break and then on the far right on the try line, he had more impact than some of the bigger names.
I agree on the ref, given what the players are used to in a normal match, so many things left/ignored by the ref. It went both ways for sure
I think Papa plays game 2, but a shrewd bench change by Billy. For someone with no formal coaching experience he outplayed Freddy in the use of his bench (with some obviously forced on him). I wonder if he would live in NZ ha ha (I would think not)
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@bayimports said in Origin 2022:
@mariner4life said in Origin 2022:
What will be overlooked is the work to keep out Qld when Hunt made that last break, that was game over but NSW kept turning up in the right spot.
Think from memory it was RCG, who turned up twice, once on the break and then on the far right on the try line, he had more impact than some of the bigger names.
I agree on the ref, given what the players are used to in a normal match, so many things left/ignored by the ref. It went both ways for sure
I think Papa plays game 2, but a shrewd bench change by Billy. For someone with no formal coaching experience he outplayed Freddy in the use of his bench (with some obviously forced on him). I wonder if he would live in NZ ha ha (I would think not)
it's not worse than Innisfail
i know you're joking, but rep coaching is not club coaching
He got some things very right, and didn't panic when it would have been easy to. The focus on pressuring Cleary on every kick definitely paid dividends, as Cleary's main strength is just pinning teams in their end over and over until they break.
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@mariner4life said in Origin 2022:
@bayimports said in Origin 2022:
@mariner4life said in Origin 2022:
What will be overlooked is the work to keep out Qld when Hunt made that last break, that was game over but NSW kept turning up in the right spot.
Think from memory it was RCG, who turned up twice, once on the break and then on the far right on the try line, he had more impact than some of the bigger names.
I agree on the ref, given what the players are used to in a normal match, so many things left/ignored by the ref. It went both ways for sure
I think Papa plays game 2, but a shrewd bench change by Billy. For someone with no formal coaching experience he outplayed Freddy in the use of his bench (with some obviously forced on him). I wonder if he would live in NZ ha ha (I would think not)
it's not worse than Innisfail
i know you're joking, but rep coaching is not club coaching
He got some things very right, and didn't panic when it would have been easy to. The focus on pressuring Cleary on every kick definitely paid dividends, as Cleary's main strength is just pinning teams in their end over and over until they break.
lol absolutely joking, but was certainly a clever move. The C.Smith wrestle in the second half was invaluable as well, I thought the ref would blow a few times and he just let it go.
Unless Staggs is injured I dont see how Chrichton makes the bench in game two, was a stupid selection to start with for the bench, especially with Hynes as 18th man. Apart from a good motivator I dont see how Freddy gets a coaching/selection gig anywhere
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@bayimports said in Origin 2022:
@mariner4life said in Origin 2022:
@bayimports said in Origin 2022:
@mariner4life said in Origin 2022:
What will be overlooked is the work to keep out Qld when Hunt made that last break, that was game over but NSW kept turning up in the right spot.
Think from memory it was RCG, who turned up twice, once on the break and then on the far right on the try line, he had more impact than some of the bigger names.
I agree on the ref, given what the players are used to in a normal match, so many things left/ignored by the ref. It went both ways for sure
I think Papa plays game 2, but a shrewd bench change by Billy. For someone with no formal coaching experience he outplayed Freddy in the use of his bench (with some obviously forced on him). I wonder if he would live in NZ ha ha (I would think not)
it's not worse than Innisfail
i know you're joking, but rep coaching is not club coaching
He got some things very right, and didn't panic when it would have been easy to. The focus on pressuring Cleary on every kick definitely paid dividends, as Cleary's main strength is just pinning teams in their end over and over until they break.
lol absolutely joking, but was certainly a clever move. The C.Smith wrestle in the second half was invaluable as well, I thought the ref would blow a few times and he just let it go.
Unless Staggs is injured I dont see how Chrichton makes the bench in game two, was a stupid selection to start with for the bench, especially with Hynes as 18th man. Apart from a good motivator I dont see how Freddy gets a coaching/selection gig anywhere
lol i thought the Wighton/Chrichton move worked out!
Wighton was their best player. And then they lost a centre and had a specialist on the bench!
But yeah, Freddie made the usual strange Freddie moves, only this year he didn't have Turbo and Latrell to bail him out
I expect the rucks to speed up in Game 2 after the focus goes on that (it happens every time). But NSW shouldn't rely on that because faster rucks brings Grant, Munster and Ponga right in to the game. NSW probably give away a few set restarts as well (lets not pretend Qld were the only team getting away with set restart level offences)
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@mariner4life said in Origin 2022:
@bayimports said in Origin 2022:
@mariner4life said in Origin 2022:
@bayimports said in Origin 2022:
@mariner4life said in Origin 2022:
What will be overlooked is the work to keep out Qld when Hunt made that last break, that was game over but NSW kept turning up in the right spot.
Think from memory it was RCG, who turned up twice, once on the break and then on the far right on the try line, he had more impact than some of the bigger names.
I agree on the ref, given what the players are used to in a normal match, so many things left/ignored by the ref. It went both ways for sure
I think Papa plays game 2, but a shrewd bench change by Billy. For someone with no formal coaching experience he outplayed Freddy in the use of his bench (with some obviously forced on him). I wonder if he would live in NZ ha ha (I would think not)
it's not worse than Innisfail
i know you're joking, but rep coaching is not club coaching
He got some things very right, and didn't panic when it would have been easy to. The focus on pressuring Cleary on every kick definitely paid dividends, as Cleary's main strength is just pinning teams in their end over and over until they break.
lol absolutely joking, but was certainly a clever move. The C.Smith wrestle in the second half was invaluable as well, I thought the ref would blow a few times and he just let it go.
Unless Staggs is injured I dont see how Chrichton makes the bench in game two, was a stupid selection to start with for the bench, especially with Hynes as 18th man. Apart from a good motivator I dont see how Freddy gets a coaching/selection gig anywhere
lol i thought the Wighton/Chrichton move worked out!
Wighton was their best player. And then they lost a centre and had a specialist on the bench!
Wighton was their best player, ironically having a centre on the bench was lucky but was never the right option for a bench player
But yeah, Freddie made the usual strange Freddie moves, only this year he didn't have Turbo and Latrell to bail him out
I expect the rucks to speed up in Game 2 after the focus goes on that (it happens every time). But NSW shouldn't rely on that because faster rucks brings Grant, Munster and Ponga right in to the game. NSW probably give away a few set restarts as well (lets not pretend Qld were the only team getting away with set restart level offences)
Don't get me wrong when both teams had momentum there was a bit of holding from both, we were just talking about the come back late in the second half where Queensland were just holding on, that's all I was referring too.
I do expect changes for NSW in game 2 but don't expect any real change in the closeness of the score line, both teams look evenly matched.
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@booboo said in Origin 2022:
Who won?
put it this way, my facebook feed is full of queenslanders who have suddenly found their log in details again.
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@mariner4life it’s crazy that Klein gets Origin matches. I wouldn’t have him in the top 3. The only positive for Klein is that he’s not as bad as the token kiwi ref Perenara that was running around not knowing up or down.
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Spicy
Yeo was proper concussed and absolutely should have come off
but didn't, because Origin.
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So Freddy blinks first
Staggs dropped, Wighton out with Covid. Sims dropped. Campbell-Gillard dropped. Matterson dropped.
Jake Turbo in. Jordan McLean in. Victor Radley in. Siosifa Talakai in. Clint Gutherson in.
As a Queensland fan, none of these scare me that muchFor Qld losing Cotter is massive. Coates covered by Tuilagi. Cotter covered by Arrow who at least has been there before.
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Blues squad:
James Tedesco, capt. (Sydney Roosters)
Angus Crichton (Sydney Roosters)
Apisai Koroisau (Penrith Panthers)
Brian To’o (Penrith Panthers)
Cameron Murray (South Sydney Rabbitohs)
Clint Gutherson (Parramatta Eels)
Damien Cook (South Sydney Rabbitohs)
Daniel Tupou (Sydney Roosters)
Isaah Yeo (Penrith Panthers)
Jake Trbojevic (Manly-Warringah Sea Eagles)
Jarome Luai (Penrith Panthers)
Jordan McLean (North Queensland Cowboys)
Joseph Suaalii (Sydney Roosters)
Junior Paulo (Parramatta Eels)
Liam Martin (Penrith Panthers)
Matt Burton (Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs)
Nathan Cleary (Penrith Panthers)
Nicho Hynes (Cronulla Sharks)
Payne Haas (Brisbane Broncos)
Siosifa Talakai (Cronulla Sharks)
Stephen Crichton (Penrith Panthers)
Victor Radley (Sydney Roosters) -
Maroons Squad
- Kalyn Ponga (Newcastle Knights)
- Selwyn Cobbo (Brisbane Broncos)
- Valentine Holmes (North Queensland Cowboys)
- Dane Gagai (Newcastle Knights)
- Murray Taulagi (North Queensland Cowboys)
- Cameron Munster (Melbourne Storm)
- Daly Cherry-Evans, capt. (Manly-Warringah Sea Eagles)
- Lindsay Collins (Sydney Roosters)
- Ben Hunt (St George Illawarra Dragons)
- Josh Papalii (Canberra Raiders)
- Kurt Capewell (Brisbane Broncos)
- Felise Kaufusi (Melbourne Storm)
- Tino Fa'asuamaleaui (Gold Coast Titans)
- Harry Grant (Melbourne Storm)
- Jai Arrow (South Sydney Rabbitohs)
- Patrick Carrigan (Brisbane Broncos)
- Jeremiah Nanai (North Queensland Cowboys)
- Tom Dearden (North Queensland Cowboys)
- Thomas Flegler (Brisbane Broncos)
- Beau Fermor (Gold Coast Titans)
- Corey Oates (Brisbane Broncos)
- Reece Walsh (Warriors)
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@mariner4life said in Origin 2022:
So Freddy blinks first
Staggs dropped, Wighton out with Covid. Sims dropped. Campbell-Gillard dropped. Matterson dropped.
Jake Turbo in. Jordan McLean in. Victor Radley in. Siosifa Talakai in. Clint Gutherson in.
As a Queensland fan, none of these scare me that muchFor Qld losing Cotter is massive. Coates covered by Tuilagi. Cotter covered by Arrow who at least has been there before.
wow..7 changes and some I am surprised with, Freddy has lost it. Cotter is a massive out, but Qld probably still just in front due to Freddy's over reaction
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Sheesh 10 in the bin for that? Massive call.
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And try immediately.
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This is a stitch up
Game 3 decider guaranteed
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