Best of all time?
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Best of all time?:
Ritchie & Mourie for me. Both took teams which were in a bad place and brought to the very top,
I don't disagree with your picks but would argue that Ritchie didn't takeover a team that were in a bad place - quite the opposite. They had one bad game that galvanised the team and prompted a lot of their later success.
If you were to talk about taking over a team in a bad place and taking them to the top then Fitzy has it all over Ritchie.
No love for Reuben Thorne
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@dogmeat said in Best of all time?:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Best of all time?:
Ritchie & Mourie for me. Both took teams which were in a bad place and brought to the very top,
I don't disagree with your picks but would argue that Ritchie didn't takeover a team that were in a bad place - quite the opposite. They had one bad game that galvanised the team and prompted a lot of their later success.
If you were to talk about taking over a team in a bad place and taking them to the top then Fitzy has it all over Ritchie.
No love for Reuben Thorne
Yeah, Ritchie almost got handed the team on a platter from Tana (I still contend we would have won if Tana had stayed on).
Kirky took over a team coming off a bad place and was the second choice so plaudits for him.
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I guess my point is how
RitchieRichie transformed the team post 2007. From what I've read, the changes in mental attitude and team leadership were immense. Sure, it wasn't just him, but he deserves much of the credit. -
@Machpants said in Best of all time?:
Guy Ritchie? Ritchie Valens?
Get the GOAT's name correct FFS
Michael
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Not knocking Kirky or Rueben. Kirkpatrick, like Meads, took on a team on the slide (not helped by a succession of wonder-coaches who weren't) and Thorne was under-rated as a player and captain.
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@MN5 said in Best of all time?:
@MiketheSnow said in Best of all time?:
Had to check that he hadn’t been poached by The Baldies
Well he’s more ranga than some of the suggestions mentioned ( Brad Shields ? What the fuck ? )
Like Dan Cole he proudly qualifies for both teams.
Partnered in the midfield with Tom Shanklin
Who could also represent the baldies
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Best of all time?:
Not knocking Kirky or Rueben. Kirkpatrick, like Meads, took on a team on the slide (not helped by a succession of wonder-coaches who weren't) and Thorne was under-rated as a player and captain.
I just think GH &
RitchieRichie were a cut above.I was referring to David Kirk after the Cavaliers etc not Kirkpatrick, and I don't rate Thorne as a player when he was captain (he was better before and after he was captain) and I don't really rate him as a captain either, I still remember Collins being sent out to face the media after the loss in 2003. Granted, that's mostly on the idiot coach, but GH and Tana had to come in a rebuild the ABs as a "brand" after Mitchell and Thorne.
Still, Richie became a good captain after 2007.
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@MiketheSnow said in Best of all time?:
@MN5 said in Best of all time?:
@MiketheSnow said in Best of all time?:
Had to check that he hadn’t been poached by The Baldies
Well he’s more ranga than some of the suggestions mentioned ( Brad Shields ? What the fuck ? )
Like Dan Cole he proudly qualifies for both teams.
Partnered in the midfield with Tom Shanklin
Who could also represent the baldies
No I’ll put Thomas at fullback instead of Mike Brown. I’m very happy with my midfield.
Shanklin doesn’t make the team. There’s too many Welshmen as it is.
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@Gunner my AB XV
1-Wilson Whineray
2-Sid Shearer
3-Doug Dalton
4-Albert Anderson
5-Mike McCool
6-Steve Surridge
7-Victor Vito
8-Murray Mexted
9-Folau Fakatava
10-Beauden Barrett
11-Roger Randle
12-Tom Taylor
13-Rene Ranger
14-Sitiveni Sivivatu
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@ACT-Crusader said in Best of all time?:
@Gunner my AB XV
1-Wilson Whineray
2-Sid Shearer
3-Doug Dalton
4-Albert Anderson
5-Mike McCool
6-Steve Surridge
7-Victor Vito
8-Murray Mexted
9-Folau Fakatava
10-Beauden Barrett
11-Roger Randle
12-Tom Taylor
13-Rene Ranger
14-Sitiveni Sivivatu
15-Christian CullenMark Mayerhofler for one, was absolutely robbed come selection time.
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6N
George Graham (Sco)
Marco Manfredi (Ita)
Giovanni Grespan (Ita)
Bill Beaumont (Eng)
Sam Skinner (Sco)
John Jeffrey (Sco)
Colin Charvis (Wal)
Carlo Checchinata (Ita)Chris Cusiter (Sco)
Diego Dominguez (Ita)
David Duckham (Eng)
Brad Barritt (Eng)
Jonathan Joseph (Eng)
Teddy Thomas (Fra)
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@Nepia said in Best of all time?:
I was referring to David Kirk after the Cavaliers etc not Kirkpatrick
Apologies. New glasses....
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@MiketheSnow said in Best of all time?:
6N
George Graham (Sco)
Marco Manfredi (Ita)
Giovanni Grespan (Ita)
Bill Beaumont (Eng)
Sam Skinner (Sco)
John Jeffrey (Sco)
Colin Charvis (Wal)
Carlo Checchinata (Ita)Chris Cusiter (Sco)
Diego Dominguez (Ita)
David Duckham (Eng)
Brad Barritt (Eng)
Jonathan Joseph (Eng)
Teddy Thomas (Fra)
Scott Spedding (Fra)I like how you’ve gone for the controversial extra back for one less forward selection to keep the opposition guessing
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@ACT-Crusader too many non-Cantabs
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@MN5 said in Best of all time?:
@MiketheSnow said in Best of all time?:
6N
George Graham (Sco)
Marco Manfredi (Ita)
Giovanni Grespan (Ita)
Bill Beaumont (Eng)
Sam Skinner (Sco)
John Jeffrey (Sco)
Colin Charvis (Wal)
Carlo Checchinata (Ita)Chris Cusiter (Sco)
Diego Dominguez (Ita)
David Duckham (Eng)
Brad Barritt (Eng)
Jonathan Joseph (Eng)
Teddy Thomas (Fra)
Scott Spedding (Fra)I like how you’ve gone for the controversial extra back for one less forward selection to keep the opposition guessing
Was editing on the go
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Best little buggers of all time.
Jaques Fouroux
Grant Batty
Damian McKenzie
Yosohito Yoshida
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Best of all time?:
Best little buggers of all time.
Jaques Fouroux
Grant Batty
Damian McKenzie
Yosohito Yoshida
Shane WilliamsRelative to position played, Brian Williams (Neath and Wales)
Loose head prop at 6'1" tall and weighing little more than 14 stone
Wales' hardest rugby player died 15 years ago today
Williams was a one-off, a player so strong he was feared by opponents but respected by all
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@MiketheSnow said in Best of all time?:
Loose head prop at 6'1"
Giant compared to Ian McLauchlan....
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Faf de Clerk
5' 7" / 1.7m
13 st 12lb / 88kgNeil Back
5' 10" / 1.78m
14 st 9lb / 93kgLeigh Halfpenny
5' 10" / 1.78m
13 st 4lb / 85kgJean Pierre Rives
5' 11" / 1.8m
12 st 13lb / 82kg
