QF Chiefs v Waratahs
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@Crazy-Horse said in QF Chiefs v Waratahs:
@Dan54 said in QF Chiefs v Waratahs:
@booboo said in QF Chiefs v Waratahs:
Only 37 mins in, and Stan playing up ...
... but not a fan of the rubbing of the head of th opposition by QT after the Nankevil try
Not a fan, but doesn't worry me over much if it helps get in someones head. And without knowing if anything was said earlier or anything I just shrug my shoulders.
I think physical niggle like that should be penalised. I say this because given the retaliation is often punished we are effectively giving the niggler a free hit. So, if we don't want the players protecting themselves we have to make sure we are protecting them.
Really, it's no different to sledging players etc, and I have seen players rub players heads almost every game I watch. And saw it etc in games I played in, and if you can get someone to react well.....
Did you ever see Kearns give the ABs the 2 fingered salute when he scored, is almost in rugby lore in Aus. Or just gently running a player off the ball when he chasing it, annoys the shit out of player getting interfered with in anyway, and hopefully puts him off game a bit. You think Nic White is checking player's health when he bends over and yells in his face when been tackled or penalised etc. I not keen on look, but have seen it (and maybe done similar) when I played. I think a few of you fellas have played rugby in pretty sterile teams if you haven't seen it. -
You can put the BB back on BR. Good to see!
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@Old-Samurai-Jack said in QF Chiefs v Waratahs:
You can put the BB back on BR. Good to see!
I never took it away
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@Dan54 said in QF Chiefs v Waratahs:
@Crazy-Horse said in QF Chiefs v Waratahs:
@Dan54 said in QF Chiefs v Waratahs:
@booboo said in QF Chiefs v Waratahs:
Only 37 mins in, and Stan playing up ...
... but not a fan of the rubbing of the head of th opposition by QT after the Nankevil try
Not a fan, but doesn't worry me over much if it helps get in someones head. And without knowing if anything was said earlier or anything I just shrug my shoulders.
I think physical niggle like that should be penalised. I say this because given the retaliation is often punished we are effectively giving the niggler a free hit. So, if we don't want the players protecting themselves we have to make sure we are protecting them.
Really, it's no different to sledging players etc, and I have seen players rub players heads almost every game I watch. And saw it etc in games I played in, and if you can get someone to react well.....
Did you ever see Kearns give the ABs the 2 fingered salute when he scored, is almost in rugby lore in Aus. Or just gently running a player off the ball when he chasing it, annoys the shit out of player getting interfered with in anyway, and hopefully puts him off game a bit. You think Nic White is checking player's health when he bends over and yells in his face when been tackled or penalised etc. I not keen on look, but have seen it (and maybe done similar) when I played. I think a few of you fellas have played rugby in pretty sterile teams if you haven't seen it.All for it if the player on the receiving end can hit them back with a big fuck off. But they can't.
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@Crazy-Horse said in QF Chiefs v Waratahs:
@Dan54 said in QF Chiefs v Waratahs:
@Crazy-Horse said in QF Chiefs v Waratahs:
@Dan54 said in QF Chiefs v Waratahs:
@booboo said in QF Chiefs v Waratahs:
Only 37 mins in, and Stan playing up ...
... but not a fan of the rubbing of the head of th opposition by QT after the Nankevil try
Not a fan, but doesn't worry me over much if it helps get in someones head. And without knowing if anything was said earlier or anything I just shrug my shoulders.
I think physical niggle like that should be penalised. I say this because given the retaliation is often punished we are effectively giving the niggler a free hit. So, if we don't want the players protecting themselves we have to make sure we are protecting them.
Really, it's no different to sledging players etc, and I have seen players rub players heads almost every game I watch. And saw it etc in games I played in, and if you can get someone to react well.....
Did you ever see Kearns give the ABs the 2 fingered salute when he scored, is almost in rugby lore in Aus. Or just gently running a player off the ball when he chasing it, annoys the shit out of player getting interfered with in anyway, and hopefully puts him off game a bit. You think Nic White is checking player's health when he bends over and yells in his face when been tackled or penalised etc. I not keen on look, but have seen it (and maybe done similar) when I played. I think a few of you fellas have played rugby in pretty sterile teams if you haven't seen it.All for it if the player on the receiving end can hit them back with a big fuck off. But they can't.
It depends a lot on how it's done as well. A cocky head rub and a grin pisses players off but I agree that you don't need to go full Itoje and scream in faces.
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Just seen the incident involving Quinn Tupaea, for me its a serious lack of class ,not sure if their was some history with these 2 players never the less at least be proffesional and just get on with it because right now you like a dork
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@Steven-Harris said in QF Chiefs v Waratahs:
Just seen the incident involving Quinn Tupaea, for me its a serious lack of class ,not sure if their was some history with these 2 players never the less at least be proffesional and just get on with it because right now you like a dork
Looked to me like there may have been some verbals the other way earlier in the game because QT was very keen to make his point. It didn't look like a random act
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@Stargazer said in QF Chiefs v Waratahs:
@ARHS Why was Lowe a worry? He had a good game. Again.
Tahs first try. Lowe rushed way up and in leaving a gaping hole on the outside then was guilty of ball watching, turned into an area that already had cover. Left BBBR to put a chase in along with Weber, who had run straight toward the corner from the other side of the field as soon as the ball started moving that way. Good vision from Weber spotting the danger but he was always 10 metres to the side of the play.
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@Crucial said in QF Chiefs v Waratahs:
@Steven-Harris said in QF Chiefs v Waratahs:
Just seen the incident involving Quinn Tupaea, for me its a serious lack of class ,not sure if their was some history with these 2 players never the less at least be proffesional and just get on with it because right now you like a dork
Looked to me like there may have been some verbals they other way earlier in the game because QT was very keen to make his point. It didn't look like a random act
It wasn't a one off either. He did similar a few times during the game.
Never noticed this from him before so hopefully a one off. It was good that he was passionate and did more than just be a role player (which is a criticism I have of Goodhue - he hasn't seemed to progress from being a role player to a leader in the Saders).
When you add in his flop that lead to a Tahs try his behaviour wasn't too different to what Reece has rightly copped flack for.
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@Dan54 said in QF Chiefs v Waratahs:
@Crazy-Horse said in QF Chiefs v Waratahs:
@Dan54 said in QF Chiefs v Waratahs:
@booboo said in QF Chiefs v Waratahs:
Only 37 mins in, and Stan playing up ...
... but not a fan of the rubbing of the head of th opposition by QT after the Nankevil try
Not a fan, but doesn't worry me over much if it helps get in someones head. And without knowing if anything was said earlier or anything I just shrug my shoulders.
I think physical niggle like that should be penalised. I say this because given the retaliation is often punished we are effectively giving the niggler a free hit. So, if we don't want the players protecting themselves we have to make sure we are protecting them.
Really, it's no different to sledging players etc, and I have seen players rub players heads almost every game I watch. And saw it etc in games I played in, and if you can get someone to react well.....
Did you ever see Kearns give the ABs the 2 fingered salute when he scored, is almost in rugby lore in Aus. Or just gently running a player off the ball when he chasing it, annoys the shit out of player getting interfered with in anyway, and hopefully puts him off game a bit. You think Nic White is checking player's health when he bends over and yells in his face when been tackled or penalised etc. I not keen on look, but have seen it (and maybe done similar) when I played. I think a few of you fellas have played rugby in pretty sterile teams if you haven't seen it.It’s very different to sledging or giving someone the double birdie - there is physical contact. Talk and gesture all you want, but once there is contact it should either be penalised or be like ice hockey
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@Crucial said in QF Chiefs v Waratahs:
@Steven-Harris said in QF Chiefs v Waratahs:
Just seen the incident involving Quinn Tupaea, for me its a serious lack of class ,not sure if their was some history with these 2 players never the less at least be proffesional and just get on with it because right now you like a dork
Looked to me like there may have been some verbals the other way earlier in the game because QT was very keen to make his point. It didn't look like a random act
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@Tim said in QF Chiefs v Waratahs:
@Stargazer That was a beauty. Good to see Retallick putting a shoulder into it.
I really hope he can do that to all the other teams smallest guys this year 😁 he might be able to build up and do it to big guys in a few years!
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@Crucial said in QF Chiefs v Waratahs:
@Steven-Harris said in QF Chiefs v Waratahs:
Just seen the incident involving Quinn Tupaea, for me its a serious lack of class ,not sure if their was some history with these 2 players never the less at least be proffesional and just get on with it because right now you like a dork
Looked to me like there may have been some verbals the other way earlier in the game because QT was very keen to make his point. It didn't look like a random act
If that is the case and not sure if it is, then that is even worse in my opinion because that means he allowed that talk to get to him.
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@ACT-Crusader said in QF Chiefs v Waratahs:
@Dan54 said in QF Chiefs v Waratahs:
@Crazy-Horse said in QF Chiefs v Waratahs:
@Dan54 said in QF Chiefs v Waratahs:
@booboo said in QF Chiefs v Waratahs:
Only 37 mins in, and Stan playing up ...
... but not a fan of the rubbing of the head of th opposition by QT after the Nankevil try
Not a fan, but doesn't worry me over much if it helps get in someones head. And without knowing if anything was said earlier or anything I just shrug my shoulders.
I think physical niggle like that should be penalised. I say this because given the retaliation is often punished we are effectively giving the niggler a free hit. So, if we don't want the players protecting themselves we have to make sure we are protecting them.
Really, it's no different to sledging players etc, and I have seen players rub players heads almost every game I watch. And saw it etc in games I played in, and if you can get someone to react well.....
Did you ever see Kearns give the ABs the 2 fingered salute when he scored, is almost in rugby lore in Aus. Or just gently running a player off the ball when he chasing it, annoys the shit out of player getting interfered with in anyway, and hopefully puts him off game a bit. You think Nic White is checking player's health when he bends over and yells in his face when been tackled or penalised etc. I not keen on look, but have seen it (and maybe done similar) when I played. I think a few of you fellas have played rugby in pretty sterile teams if you haven't seen it.It’s very different to sledging or giving someone the double birdie - there is physical contact. Talk and gesture all you want, but once there is contact it should either be penalised or be like ice hockey
Well you can tell you and I played rugby maybe in different eras. When I played physical contact was all that mattered, andyone who sledges was just considered a mouth. Hell if you killed ball in ruck, you weren't asked to move ,you generally got a physical reminder to do it. If I stuffed up catching a lineout ball, was not unexpected to get a pat on the back , from opposition. And I would say from what I saw when coaching etc generally same thing, everything seems so sanitised now from viewers, and I reckon almost every game I watch on tv I see a nudge or little face rub etc. not sure why there not so many getting panties in a twist over them. I saw absolutely noone get upset when Colsey dragged BB into a group of Canes players to get his haed rubbed after he went to Blues.
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I caught up watching a replay today. Happy to see the experienced guys like BBBR, Jacobson and Weber be so influential. The much-criticised Gatland had a really good game too, and Nankivell looked much more interested back at centre.
The concerns leading into the SF will be Slater's lineout throwing (not a surprise) and Moli's scrummaging. Mafileo has been missed here, so Ta'avao plays big minutes.
Time to read the match comments...
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@Crazy-Horse said in QF Chiefs v Waratahs:
QT tried to milk a penalty and it backfired.
I think Holloway got a sneaky foot in there.
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@Dan54 you seem to be getting your panties in a knot defending this. And you’re conflating general physical play like at a ruck or lineout with after the whistle stuff that as others have pointed out that just looks dumb. I wasn’t a fan of Coles doing that crap because it’s pretty pointless. It’s not about the game being sanitised, but just about getting on with the game. You can celebrate without lowering yourself to that.
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@ACT-Crusader said in QF Chiefs v Waratahs:
@Dan54 you seem to be getting your panties in a knot defending this. And you’re conflating general physical play like at a ruck or lineout with after the whistle stuff that as others have pointed out that just looks dumb. I wasn’t a fan of Coles doing that crap because it’s pretty pointless. It’s not about the game being sanitised, but just about getting on with the game. You can celebrate without lowering yourself to that.
Ok well to be fair I missed your post where you were upset about Colsey etc dragged BB into their celebration. almost every post I read on it thought it was quite funny as did BB. I don't think QT's etc it a great look, but I genuinely don't think it worth penalty etc anymore than I do when 9s nudge each other at scrums etc just to annoy shit out of each other etc, or give someone a pray after he knocked on etc.
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@Dan54 said in QF Chiefs v Waratahs:
@ACT-Crusader said in QF Chiefs v Waratahs:
@Dan54 you seem to be getting your panties in a knot defending this. And you’re conflating general physical play like at a ruck or lineout with after the whistle stuff that as others have pointed out that just looks dumb. I wasn’t a fan of Coles doing that crap because it’s pretty pointless. It’s not about the game being sanitised, but just about getting on with the game. You can celebrate without lowering yourself to that.
Ok well to be fair I missed your post where you were upset about Colsey etc dragged BB into their celebration. almost every post I read on it thought it was quite funny as did BB. I don't think QT's etc it a great look, but I genuinely don't think it worth penalty etc anymore than I do when 9s nudge each other at scrums etc just to annoy shit out of each other etc, or give someone a pray after he knocked on etc.
We all want the game to be sanitised according to the whims of Saint Bono of the Cockwomble. No humour or fun permitted on the field, unless it's a quip by a marginalised individual.
