Crusaders. v Reds
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@Chris Are you trying to imply that the Hurricanes non "Playoffs" round robin Hurricanes loss to the MP and less than stellar performances against the Waratahs and Reds "does not really matter"?
Well it should as the loss of those points dropped against MP probably means no home ground playoff advantage and the financial benefits that come with that just for starters. -
Watching behind....
Pablo got lucky with the yellow
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@Higgins said in Crusaders. v Reds:
@Chris Are you trying to imply that the Hurricanes non "Playoffs" round robin Hurricanes loss to the MP and less than stellar performances against the Waratahs and Reds "does not really matter"?
Well it should as the loss of those points dropped against MP probably means no home ground playoff advantage and the financial benefits that come with that just for starters.No what I am saying from this weekend on its more about no injuries getting through the weekend and getting the Job done in the playoffs, you cant peak for 16 weeks then a QF,SF and Final. You have to pull back to preserve your squad some where or you are spent before finals time.
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@Chris You clearly stated that this weeks games does not really matter to which I replied that every competition game my team plays matters to me. Then you threw up three less than disappointing Hurricanes performances back to me as if they should not matter to me because the Hurricanes did not go as well as expected.
Now you are saying
@Chris said in Crusaders. v Reds:
No what I am saying from this weekend on its more about no injuries getting through the weekend and getting the Job done in the playoffs, you cant peak for 16 weeks then a QF,SF and Final. You have to pull back to preserve your squad some where or you are spent before finals time.
I cannot see where you are saying that in your reply to my post pointing out that all my teams competition games do matter to me.
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@number9 said in Crusaders. v Reds:
@Chris Crusaders didn't rest anyone. They looked laboured tonight. They will be facing the Reds again I think they'll win but will do it tough. Playing like that they won't make the Final.
Didn’t rest anyone ??
No Taylor,Mounga,Goodhue,Newell or Hall that’s
5 I see rested/ not playing who would be in the top 23.
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@Higgins said in Crusaders. v Reds:
@Chris You clearly stated that this weeks games does not really matter to which I replied that every competition game my team plays matters to me. Then you threw up three less than disappointing Hurricanes performances back to me as if they should not matter to me because the Hurricanes did not go as well as expected.
Now you are saying
@Chris said in Crusaders. v Reds:
No what I am saying from this weekend on its more about no injuries getting through the weekend and getting the Job done in the playoffs, you cant peak for 16 weeks then a QF,SF and Final. You have to pull back to preserve your squad some where or you are spent before finals time.
I cannot see where you are saying that in your reply to my post pointing out that all my teams competition games do matter to me.
Yep so I stated that they don’t matter in the greater theme of things.
You don’t win a title this week so I am happy as a fan to get through the week with a win with no injuries.
You are the one that jumped on my post, not the other way around I stand by my post it’s all about next week and beyond.I don’t care about performances this week as long the job gets done. -
Blackadder was bloody lucky not to see a YC in the 51st for me, just lay there to stop the Reds attack, clearly on purpose.
How the fuck that isn’t a RC for Matera is beyond me. Dropped from height and just lucky the guy managed to get his shoulder coming down to get an arm out (still think his head directly hit the ground). Fucking lucky the guy is walking tomorrow.
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@gt12 said in Crusaders. v Reds:
Blackadder was bloody lucky not to see a YC in the 51st for me, just lay there to stop the Reds attack, clearly on purpose.
How the fuck that isn’t a RC for Matera is beyond me. Dropped from height and just lucky the guy managed to get his shoulder coming down to get an arm out (still think his head directly hit the ground). Fucking lucky the guy is walking tomorrow.
Dumb, dirty play which should have seen him red carded.
There’s no place for that shit in rugby and thankfully they’ve scrapped the 20-minute red for next season.
Teams deserve to play with 14 men for things like that.
Far more players have been retired through shoulder injuries than head injuries, so whilst the ref made the correct call under current guidelines any lift past the 90 & subsequent drop should be a RC IMHO.
Whether the player lands on the head or shoulder or back first.
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@number9 said in Crusaders. v Reds:
Crusader's scrum was hardly dominant at all, their general forward play was not up to scratch. Kicking was abysmal.
We’ve been underdogs all season.
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Bower played well as he has done most games. Looks like the frontrunner to take the AB loosehead spot. Needs to show it against better props in the finals though.
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@Chris said in Crusaders. v Reds:
@number9 said in Crusaders. v Reds:
@Chris Crusaders didn't rest anyone. They looked laboured tonight. They will be facing the Reds again I think they'll win but will do it tough. Playing like that they won't make the Final.
Didn’t rest anyone ??
No Taylor,Mounga,Goodhue,Newell or Hall that’s
5 I see rested/ not playing who would be in the top 23.
So no they did.What about the rest of your All Blacks? I don't know Whitlock, Bower, Barrett, Havili, Ennor, Reece Blackadder etc etc etc and Hall was injured during the warm ups. No, you guys just did not gel at home. You'll beat the Reds this week, but will struggle to beat most likely the Brumbies at the semis with such a poor performance.
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@MiketheSnow said in Crusaders. v Reds:
umb, dirty play which should have seen him red carded.
There’s no place for that shit in rugby and thankfully they’ve scrapped the 20-minute red for next season.Buggar. Its the one rule change that I definitely liked. Teams are still penalised by losing a (maybe key) player etc but for those watching the game the game isn't often ruined. Esp if its early in the first half
So a player is penalised. But not the team too heavily and spectators who have paid good money to watch it. It esp applies in finals (inc semis etc)
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@number9 said in Crusaders. v Reds:
@Chris said in Crusaders. v Reds:
@number9 said in Crusaders. v Reds:
@Chris Crusaders didn't rest anyone. They looked laboured tonight. They will be facing the Reds again I think they'll win but will do it tough. Playing like that they won't make the Final.
Didn’t rest anyone ??
No Taylor,Mounga,Goodhue,Newell or Hall that’s
5 I see rested/ not playing who would be in the top 23.
So no they did.What about the rest of your All Blacks? I don't know Whitlock, Bower, Barrett, Havili, Ennor, Reece Blackadder etc etc etc and Hall was injured during the warm ups. No, you guys just did not gel at home. You'll beat the Reds this week, but will struggle to beat most likely the Brumbies at the semis with such a poor performance.
What has that got to with you saying we didn’t rest anyone when we clearly did.
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@Stag said in Crusaders. v Reds:
Very good performance from Bridge, easily the best player in a poor overall team performance
Yep agree Bower and Jager were very good too.
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@MiketheSnow said in Crusaders. v Reds:
There’s no place for that shit in rugby and thankfully they’ve scrapped the 20-minute red for next season.
Teams deserve to play with 14 men for things like that.totally disagree...why should a whole team and fans be punished for one players sheer stupiditiy?
It isnt like the team were egging him on or that moment of stupidity was a team plan, fans and teams deserve rules that do not take away the contest due to a split second moment of idiocy from 1 of the 31 men running around in the 100 x 50m rectangle.
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@taniwharugby the inconsistent application of the laws by the SR refs and the general thuggery of the SR players (how many tip tackles have we seen now? all in the space of about three weeks) have killed off any chance of the 20 minute card getting up.
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@Derpus and the inconsistent application is part of the issue.
As I've said before, WR, Unions, coaches, players.and refs all have responsibility here to work together to find a better way, instead it seems WR are just burying thier Heads in the sand like nothing is wrong.
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@Derpus said in Crusaders. v Reds:
@taniwharugby the inconsistent application of the laws by the SR refs and the general thuggery of the SR players (how many tip tackles have we seen now? all in the space of about three weeks) have killed off any chance of the 20 minute card getting up.
And we now see the ref is absolutely correct according to WR laws which is what the game is played under. Matera has not been cited because the tackle did not meet the red card threshold. It's probably not the inconsistency of the refs the probelm, but perhaps we see things differently on perhaps who we support etc.
And shows what I know I thought it was red, but after seeing replayes he lands on arm, then shoulder etc so not a red card. I not arguing whether it should be or not, but it was correct decision re the laws of game.
