Old AB teams discussion
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@Nepia said in Old AB teams discussion:
Um, that could be said of a lot of players in that era. But specifically Domehead had screwed Cullen (and Wilson, Cribb) earlier in his reign by saying they were all dropped when they had injuries which impacted with their AB money.
On that note this was an interesting read
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/news/10634198/Inside-ex-All-Blacks-coach-Mitchells-journey -
@mencey said in Old AB teams discussion:
Cullen was the greatest full back in the history of the game IMHO.
Def one of. But I'd have Blanco & JPR up here too.
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@Bovidae said in Old AB teams discussion:
I blame Deans. You can argue how much influence he had, but he was the backs coach.
They both seemed intent on proving that you could have a winning ABs team filled with journeymen, as opposed to relying on stars
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Old AB teams discussion:
@mencey said in Old AB teams discussion:
Cullen was the greatest full back in the history of the game IMHO.
Def one of. But I'd have Blanco & JPR up here too.
Nepia
Hastings
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@booboo said in Old AB teams discussion:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Old AB teams discussion:
@mencey said in Old AB teams discussion:
Cullen was the greatest full back in the history of the game IMHO.
Def one of. But I'd have Blanco & JPR up here too.
Nepia
Hastings
ClarkeNever saw Nepia (my dad raved about him like we rave about McCaw) but by all accounts way up there. Clarke & Hastings were great but not GOAT contenders IMHO
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Old AB teams discussion:
@booboo said in Old AB teams discussion:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Old AB teams discussion:
@mencey said in Old AB teams discussion:
Cullen was the greatest full back in the history of the game IMHO.
Def one of. But I'd have Blanco & JPR up here too.
Nepia
Hastings
ClarkeNever saw Nepia (my dad raved about him like we rave about McCaw) but by all accounts way up there. Clarke & Hastings were great but not GOAT contenders IMHO
Nepia and Clarke off reputation.
Clarke roundly hailed as best AB 15 of the 20th century.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Old AB teams discussion:
@booboo said in Old AB teams discussion:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Old AB teams discussion:
@mencey said in Old AB teams discussion:
Cullen was the greatest full back in the history of the game IMHO.
Def one of. But I'd have Blanco & JPR up here too.
Nepia
Hastings
ClarkeNever saw Nepia (my dad raved about him like we rave about McCaw) but by all accounts way up there. Clarke & Hastings were great but not GOAT contenders IMHO
Some reckon Andy Irvine and Stuart Hogg were better than old Gav.
He was a damn fine all round player though.
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@booboo said in Old AB teams discussion:
Clarke roundly hailed as best AB 15 of the 20th century.
He was an outstanding kicker when 55 yard rugby was the norm and had unbelievable hands apparently, but always thought he was regarded as pretty limited?
Personally, I'd rate Fergie McCormick up there.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Old AB teams discussion:
@booboo said in Old AB teams discussion:
Clarke roundly hailed as best AB 15 of the 20th century.
He was an outstanding kicker when 55 yard rugby was the norm and had unbelievable hands apparently, but always thought he was regarded as pretty limited?
Personally, I'd rate Fergie McCormick up there.
Fergie played all of 16 tests...
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@booboo said in Old AB teams discussion:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Old AB teams discussion:
@booboo said in Old AB teams discussion:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Old AB teams discussion:
@mencey said in Old AB teams discussion:
Cullen was the greatest full back in the history of the game IMHO.
Def one of. But I'd have Blanco & JPR up here too.
Nepia
Hastings
ClarkeNever saw Nepia (my dad raved about him like we rave about McCaw) but by all accounts way up there. Clarke & Hastings were great but not GOAT contenders IMHO
Nepia and Clarke off reputation.
Clarke roundly hailed as best AB 15 of the 20th century.
Huh? Never heard that before, it 's always me.
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@booboo said in Old AB teams discussion:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Old AB teams discussion:
@booboo said in Old AB teams discussion:
Clarke roundly hailed as best AB 15 of the 20th century.
He was an outstanding kicker when 55 yard rugby was the norm and had unbelievable hands apparently, but always thought he was regarded as pretty limited?
Personally, I'd rate Fergie McCormick up there.
Fergie played all of 16 tests...
About 5 years worth.
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@Nepia said in Old AB teams discussion:
@booboo said in Old AB teams discussion:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Old AB teams discussion:
@booboo said in Old AB teams discussion:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Old AB teams discussion:
@mencey said in Old AB teams discussion:
Cullen was the greatest full back in the history of the game IMHO.
Def one of. But I'd have Blanco & JPR up here too.
Nepia
Hastings
ClarkeNever saw Nepia (my dad raved about him like we rave about McCaw) but by all accounts way up there. Clarke & Hastings were great but not GOAT contenders IMHO
Nepia and Clarke off reputation.
Clarke roundly hailed as best AB 15 of the 20th century.
Huh? Never heard that before, it 's always me.
Let me tell you a little tale....
Did a sponsored walk from Naenae to Wellington in my early teens. Bloke at the finish signs my form as completed. Bloke had charisma and looked a fit mid-60's. Go home, show my form to my Dad and he gets very excited and asked me to describe bloke.
The name on the form was "George Nepia".
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Old AB teams discussion:
@Nepia said in Old AB teams discussion:
@booboo said in Old AB teams discussion:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Old AB teams discussion:
@booboo said in Old AB teams discussion:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Old AB teams discussion:
@mencey said in Old AB teams discussion:
Cullen was the greatest full back in the history of the game IMHO.
Def one of. But I'd have Blanco & JPR up here too.
Nepia
Hastings
ClarkeNever saw Nepia (my dad raved about him like we rave about McCaw) but by all accounts way up there. Clarke & Hastings were great but not GOAT contenders IMHO
Nepia and Clarke off reputation.
Clarke roundly hailed as best AB 15 of the 20th century.
Huh? Never heard that before, it 's always me.
Let me tell you a little tale....
Did a sponsored walk from Naenae to Wellington in my early teens. Bloke at the finish signs my form as completed. Bloke had charisma and looked a fit mid-60's. Go home, show my form to my Dad and he gets very excited and asked me to describe bloke.
The name on the form was "George Nepia".
Nice. I have a card with his signature on that my great grandmother gave to me.
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@canefan said in Old AB teams discussion:
@Bovidae said in Old AB teams discussion:
I blame Deans. You can argue how much influence he had, but he was the backs coach.
They both seemed intent on proving that you could have a winning ABs team filled with journeymen, as opposed to relying on stars
Pffft hahaha what?
Did you just skip 2003?
Nonu and tana midfield
Joey roks, Spencer, dougie, mils
Jerry. Richie.
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@mariner4life said in Old AB teams discussion:
@canefan said in Old AB teams discussion:
@Bovidae said in Old AB teams discussion:
I blame Deans. You can argue how much influence he had, but he was the backs coach.
They both seemed intent on proving that you could have a winning ABs team filled with journeymen, as opposed to relying on stars
Pffft hahaha what?
Did you just skip 2003?
Nonu and tana midfield
Joey roks, Spencer, dougie, mils
Jerry. Richie.
KevThat's because they tried the journeyman plan in 2001/2002 and then saw the Blues in 2003 and went fuck that works, then adopted their game plan.
You having a shot @MN5's biggest Domehead fluffer title?
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@mariner4life said in Old AB teams discussion:
@canefan said in Old AB teams discussion:
@Bovidae said in Old AB teams discussion:
I blame Deans. You can argue how much influence he had, but he was the backs coach.
They both seemed intent on proving that you could have a winning ABs team filled with journeymen, as opposed to relying on stars
Pffft hahaha what?
Did you just skip 2003?
Nonu and tana midfield
Joey roks, Spencer, dougie, mils
Jerry. Richie.
KevYeah but Rueben Thorne, Caleb Ralph and Sam Broomhall played too
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@Nepia said in Old AB teams discussion:
@mariner4life said in Old AB teams discussion:
@canefan said in Old AB teams discussion:
@Bovidae said in Old AB teams discussion:
I blame Deans. You can argue how much influence he had, but he was the backs coach.
They both seemed intent on proving that you could have a winning ABs team filled with journeymen, as opposed to relying on stars
Pffft hahaha what?
Did you just skip 2003?
Nonu and tana midfield
Joey roks, Spencer, dougie, mils
Jerry. Richie.
KevThat's because they tried the journeyman plan in 2001/2002 and then saw the Blues in 2003 and went fuck that works, then adopted their game plan.
You having a shot @MN5's biggest Domehead fluffer title?
Nah I just know Cullen was cooked in 2003
Domehead brought in some of my favourite ABs
I love pumping a great Wallabies team and the Boks by 50 at their house
He brought back the BledisloeWon 82% of his tests
Put some fucking respect on his name
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@MN5 said in Old AB teams discussion:
He gave some pretty clear reasons for why he dropped Cullen but by Christ they went down like a shit sandwich.
I guess that comes down to was a case of was a 80% Cullen as good as 100% MacDonald/Blair ?
At the time, easily. At 50% he'd be better than a 200% Blair.
