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    @bones said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

    @kiwiwomble I'm not sure when you're talking about, doesn't really matter though eh.

    I just can't wrap my head around half of the shit Hunt does. He put a bomb up for the last pen kick to touch! Why can't he kick like any other average first five?

    I wasn’t even defending hunt was my point…was just that ioane wasn’t the answer as we were saying all the same thing about him

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    @kiwiwomble said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

    @bones said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

    @kiwiwomble I'm not sure when you're talking about, doesn't really matter though eh.

    I just can't wrap my head around half of the shit Hunt does. He put a bomb up for the last pen kick to touch! Why can't he kick like any other average first five?

    I wasn’t even defending hunt was my point…was just that ioane wasn’t the answer as we’re were saying all the same thing about him

    I'm not sure about that. Wasn't saying you were defending him though! Out of the two players, I know which one I'd pick to ride through a rough patch...

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    @bones said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

    @kiwiwomble said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

    @bones said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

    @kiwiwomble I'm not sure when you're talking about, doesn't really matter though eh.

    I just can't wrap my head around half of the shit Hunt does. He put a bomb up for the last pen kick to touch! Why can't he kick like any other average first five?

    I wasn’t even defending hunt was my point…was just that ioane wasn’t the answer as we’re were saying all the same thing about him

    I'm not sure about that. Wasn't saying you were defending him though! Out of the two players, I know which one I'd pick to ride through a rough patch...

    Really? Now maybe, he seems to settled down at the chiefs but I remember lamenting ioane doing chip and chase from our own 22 kind of shit all the time, poor kicking stats and hands like feet

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    @kiwiwomble said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

    @bones said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

    @kiwiwomble said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

    @bones said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

    @kiwiwomble I'm not sure when you're talking about, doesn't really matter though eh.

    I just can't wrap my head around half of the shit Hunt does. He put a bomb up for the last pen kick to touch! Why can't he kick like any other average first five?

    I wasn’t even defending hunt was my point…was just that ioane wasn’t the answer as we’re were saying all the same thing about him

    I'm not sure about that. Wasn't saying you were defending him though! Out of the two players, I know which one I'd pick to ride through a rough patch...

    Really? Now maybe, he seems to settled down at the chiefs but I remember lamenting ioane doing chip and chase from our own 22 kind of shit all the time, poor kicking stats and hands like feet

    Oh he definitely had a patch where he wasn't up to his usual standard - but I don't recall so many remote sized holes in my tv screen.

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    @kiwimurph said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

    Blackadder was the standout Crusader to me by a country mile.

    Yep, he was great. Huge engine that never seems to empty. He just keeps going and going. Love to watch it.

    Newell, Havili, Fainga'anuku pretty good, too. The new lock looked handy in the line-out.

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    @bones said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

    @kiwiwomble said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

    @bones said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

    @kiwiwomble said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

    @bones said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

    @kiwiwomble I'm not sure when you're talking about, doesn't really matter though eh.

    I just can't wrap my head around half of the shit Hunt does. He put a bomb up for the last pen kick to touch! Why can't he kick like any other average first five?

    I wasn’t even defending hunt was my point…was just that ioane wasn’t the answer as we’re were saying all the same thing about him

    I'm not sure about that. Wasn't saying you were defending him though! Out of the two players, I know which one I'd pick to ride through a rough patch...

    Really? Now maybe, he seems to settled down at the chiefs but I remember lamenting ioane doing chip and chase from our own 22 kind of shit all the time, poor kicking stats and hands like feet

    Oh he definitely had a patch where he wasn't up to his usual standard - but I don't recall so many remote sized holes in my tv screen.

    I honestly think it’s because when ioane was shitting the bed we pulled him and had hunt and gatland to “cover”

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    @stargazer said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

    @kiwimurph said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

    Blackadder was the standout Crusader to me by a country mile.

    Yep, he was great. Huge engine that never seems to empty. He just keeps going and going. Love to watch it.

    Newell, Havili, Fainga'anuku pretty good, too. The new lock looked handy in the line-out.

    Two weeks in a row that the opposition have strolled in for a try through the midfield.
    Not so sure that LF is doing such a great job on defence

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    @crucial said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

    @stargazer said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

    @kiwimurph said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

    Blackadder was the standout Crusader to me by a country mile.

    Yep, he was great. Huge engine that never seems to empty. He just keeps going and going. Love to watch it.

    Newell, Havili, Fainga'anuku pretty good, too. The new lock looked handy in the line-out.

    Two weeks in a row that the opposition have strolled in for a try through the midfield.
    Not so sure that LF is doing such a great job on defence

    It wasn’t his fault last week that was Fihaki,LF was defending at first five as Mounga was on the wing and Fihaki had come into centre.
    This week Havilli flew up out left the hole.

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    Haven't read the thread.
    Outside of his try, how was Fletcher Newell's game?

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    @chris said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

    @crucial said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

    @stargazer said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

    @kiwimurph said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

    Blackadder was the standout Crusader to me by a country mile.

    Yep, he was great. Huge engine that never seems to empty. He just keeps going and going. Love to watch it.

    Newell, Havili, Fainga'anuku pretty good, too. The new lock looked handy in the line-out.

    Two weeks in a row that the opposition have strolled in for a try through the midfield.
    Not so sure that LF is doing such a great job on defence

    It wasn’t his fault last week that was Fihaki,LF was defending at first five as Mounga was on the wing and Fihaki had come into centre.
    This week Havilli flew up out left the hole.

    Hard to defend if you aren’t in position is an alternate view.
    Tonight he drifted out too early, last week he moved in to cover a channel covered by the forwards and it meant that three players were defending 30+ metres width.
    “From a certain point of view”

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    @crucial said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

    @chris said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

    @crucial said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

    @stargazer said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

    @kiwimurph said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

    Blackadder was the standout Crusader to me by a country mile.

    Yep, he was great. Huge engine that never seems to empty. He just keeps going and going. Love to watch it.

    Newell, Havili, Fainga'anuku pretty good, too. The new lock looked handy in the line-out.

    Two weeks in a row that the opposition have strolled in for a try through the midfield.
    Not so sure that LF is doing such a great job on defence

    It wasn’t his fault last week that was Fihaki,LF was defending at first five as Mounga was on the wing and Fihaki had come into centre.
    This week Havilli flew up out left the hole.

    Hard to defend if you aren’t in position is an alternate view.
    Tonight he drifted out too early, last week he moved in to cover a channel covered by the forwards and it meant that three players were defending 30+ metres width.
    “From a certain point of view”

    How could any midfield expect Hunt isn't going to grubber it back into the forwards?

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    Part of the 13s job is to organise the defence. Especially the midfield defence.

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    @crucial said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

    Part of the 13s job is to organise the defence. Especially the midfield defence.

    Things have changed from my day then when it was the 12's responsibility - defending is hard enough at 13 without having to worry about turning inside to tell them what to do, that wouldn't make much sense. 12 should be leading and be the voice.

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  • ChrisC Offline
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    @crucial said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

    @chris said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

    @crucial said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

    @stargazer said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

    @kiwimurph said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

    Blackadder was the standout Crusader to me by a country mile.

    Yep, he was great. Huge engine that never seems to empty. He just keeps going and going. Love to watch it.

    Newell, Havili, Fainga'anuku pretty good, too. The new lock looked handy in the line-out.

    Two weeks in a row that the opposition have strolled in for a try through the midfield.
    Not so sure that LF is doing such a great job on defence

    It wasn’t his fault last week that was Fihaki,LF was defending at first five as Mounga was on the wing and Fihaki had come into centre.
    This week Havilli flew up out left the hole.

    Hard to defend if you aren’t in position is an alternate view.
    Tonight he drifted out too early, last week he moved in to cover a channel covered by the forwards and it meant that three players were defending 30+ metres width.
    “From a certain point of view”

    That is a set defense by the crusaders defending their line.
    They move LF to first five Mounga to the wing and bring the wing into centre,
    It’s hard to defend the MF when you are placed at First five as part of a defensive pattern.

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    @crucial said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

    Part of the 13s job is to organise the defence. Especially the midfield defence.

    Hmmm, I thought Havili was pretty good at organising the defence (and making his tackles, too) at 12.

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  • ChrisC Offline
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    @crucial said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

    Part of the 13s job is to organise the defence. Especially the midfield defence.

    12s job I played 12 always 12s job as he can defend inside or out.
    13 is too far out to defend the inside Channels.

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    @chris said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

    @crucial said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

    Part of the 13s job is to organise the defence. Especially the midfield defence.

    12s job I played 12 always 12s job as he can defend inside or out.
    13 is too far out to defend the inside Channels.

    Different styles I guess.
    10 And 12 connected. 13/15 and wing connected. 12 and 13 work together.

    Gee. No one told Conrad Smith it wasn’t his job to organize defence.

    I don’t know the Crusaders system but something isn’t working right in that area when the same thing happens two weeks in a row.

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    @crucial said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

    No one told Conrad Smith it wasn’t his job to organize defence.

    Not sure anyone told him it was either...

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    @bones said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

    @crucial said in Crusaders v Highlanders:

    No one told Conrad Smith it wasn’t his job to organize defence.

    Not sure anyone told him it was either...

    Initiative? Either way he was pretty good at it.

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