RIP Warney
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@nta said in RIP Warney:
What a dick.
Cricket is one of those games where you can delve enough and pick apart anyone’s record to suit an argument. Warnies achievements as a player speak for themselves….but no matter who the player is there will always be the train of thought they didn’t do well vs x, or overseas or whatever.
You’d expect that sort of chat from rabid uneducated bobs and vagene fuck you bloody type munter Indian fans but not from one of their all time greats ( lets not forget what an amazing opener Gavaskar was )
Poor form.
In saying that I’ve had a look at Sunils stats and he only averaged 38.20 against England vs a career average over 50. Based on that he sucked as a player.
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the most laughable part of Sunil's shit take is
during Warnies career the Aussies won at about twice the rate the Indians did. They were barely rivals except at home on doctored wickets
Indian cricketers and fans, seriously
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@nta said in RIP Warney:
@mn5 said in RIP Warney:
In saying that I’ve had a look at Sunils stats and he only averaged 38.20 against England vs a career average over 50. Based on that he sucked as a player.
Zero runs against India as well. What a loser. FYB!
65.45 against the West Indies when they were at the best though !!!
Ok, say what you like about Sunil being a bit of a dick but the guy sure could play with the absolute best of them.
Even more so when you consider Indian first class cricket wouldn’t exactly be ideal preparation for facing Roberts, Holding, Garner, Croft, Marshall etc.
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@mn5 said in RIP Warney:
Ok, say what you like about Sunil being a bit of a dick but the guy sure could play with the absolute best of them.
OK: dick comments from a guy who did well against the West Indies.
Had 6 not out innings (4 in WI) which is amazing for an opener, and probably shows the rest of the team did NOT enjoy West Indian bowling nearly as much as he did.
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@nta said in RIP Warney:
@mn5 said in RIP Warney:
Ok, say what you like about Sunil being a bit of a dick but the guy sure could play with the absolute best of them.
OK: dick comments from a guy who did well against the West Indies.
Had 6 not out innings (4 in WI) which is amazing for an opener, and probably shows the rest of the team did NOT enjoy West Indian bowling nearly as much as he did.
Cherry picking stats to make him look bad.
I’m disgusted you’re sinking to his level.
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@mn5 said in RIP Warney:
@nta said in RIP Warney:
@mn5 said in RIP Warney:
Ok, say what you like about Sunil being a bit of a dick but the guy sure could play with the absolute best of them.
OK: dick comments from a guy who did well against the West Indies.
Had 6 not out innings (4 in WI) which is amazing for an opener, and probably shows the rest of the team did NOT enjoy West Indian bowling nearly as much as he did.
Cherry picking stats to make him look bad.
I’m disgusted you’re sinking to his level.
That was me being complimentary.
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@mariner4life said in RIP Warney:
the most laughable part of Sunil's shit take is
during Warnies career the Aussies won at about twice the rate the Indians did. They were barely rivals except at home on doctored wickets
Indian cricketers and fans, seriously
But Warnie didn't get many five fors, so he's shit. Ignoring that he bowled with McGrath, etc.
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@antipodean said in RIP Warney:
@mariner4life said in RIP Warney:
the most laughable part of Sunil's shit take is
during Warnies career the Aussies won at about twice the rate the Indians did. They were barely rivals except at home on doctored wickets
Indian cricketers and fans, seriously
But Warnie didn't get many five fors, so he's shit. Ignoring that he bowled with McGrath, etc.
Joel Garner got seven in 58 tests…..outwardly that looks barely better than a bog standard Black Caps seamer of the 90s ( Danny Morrison as one example got 10 in 48 ) but he averaged 20 so I’m assuming there was a shit load of 2-40 and 3-60 performances and picking up whoever Roberts, Holding, Croft and Marshall didn’t get first.
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Watching a few highlights there. I’d forgotten how warne absolutely owned Daryll cullinan.
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@billy-tell said in RIP Warney:
Watching a few highlights there. I’d forgotten how warne absolutely owned Daryll cullinan.
Yep he had to see a shrink apparently.
Cullinan was a very good player, not some bunny too !
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@billy-tell he had at least one bitch per team
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"What colour was the couch?
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Some of the batsmen who faced him never quite recovered.South African batsman Darryl Cullinan came to Australia with a big reputation in 1994, but had a horror tour and was clueless in the face of Warne's bowling variations.
Cullinan was dropped from the tour but came back four years later after scoring mountains of runs against other countries and seeking psychiatric help for his inability to play Warne.
Later he gave an interview to the Australian media, admitting that he'd had counselling for the demons that had haunted him after facing the demon leggie.
"There's this story about Cullinan, he said 'I've been playing the man and not the ball, I've gone to a psychologist and I've got my head right now I've got to watch the ball'. And I'm reading this going 'goodness me, this bloke's all over the place – I'm going to give it to him again'."
Cullinan eventually walked out to a warm welcome from an 85,000-strong Melbourne crowd and took his mark opposite Warne, who had the ball in hand.
"I linger around the stumps and I'm lingering with intent. Mark Taylor [the Australian captain at the time] says 'mate just get back to your mark'. I said 'no way'.
"I stood there and as he was marking centre, I was standing at the crease looking at my field and whispered to him 'hourly sessions, mate?' He looked at me and I said 'What colour was the couch?' His head snapped round and it ended in 'off' what he said to me. Three balls later, I knocked him over again for nought."
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@donsteppa lol, making one of our very best players ever look like a park cricket #8
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@mariner4life said in RIP Warney:
@donsteppa lol, making one of our very best players ever look like a park cricket #8
Have tried and failed so far to find their head to head stats. That first ball isn't a million miles from the Gatting one...
I remember reading something to the effect that Crowe forced himself to play Warne as a straight bowler, and then played for the turn late. There's a lot of mutual admiration quotes between the two of them.
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@donsteppa said in RIP Warney:
@mariner4life said in RIP Warney:
@donsteppa lol, making one of our very best players ever look like a park cricket #8
Have tried and failed so far to find their head to head stats. That first ball isn't a million miles from the Gatting one...
I remember reading something to the effect that Crowe forced himself to play Warne as a straight bowler, and then played for the turn late. There's a lot of mutual admiration quotes between the two of them.
It’s very sad to think they’re both gone
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@mariner4life said in RIP Warney:
@donsteppa lol, making one of our very best players ever look like a park cricket #8
Interestingly, if I've got the right match for that footage (second test Basin Reserve after losing in Christchurch) it looks like Crowe fell to McDermott in both innings (98 & 3) https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/australia-tour-of-new-zealand-1992-93-61409/new-zealand-vs-australia-2nd-test-63602/full-scorecard
Though that has been the joy/misery of the Australian attack so often, pressure at both ends eventually tells. Especially that later era of 'see off McGrath and Gillespie, now see off Lee and Warne, in time for McGrath and Gillespie...'
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@donsteppa said in RIP Warney:
@mariner4life said in RIP Warney:
@donsteppa lol, making one of our very best players ever look like a park cricket #8
Interestingly, if I've got the right match for that footage (second test Basin Reserve after losing in Christchurch) it looks like Crowe fell to McDermott in both innings (98 & 3) https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/australia-tour-of-new-zealand-1992-93-61409/new-zealand-vs-australia-2nd-test-63602/full-scorecard
Though that has been the joy/misery of the Australian attack so often, pressure at both ends eventually tells. Especially that later era of 'see off McGrath and Gillespie, now see off Lee and Warne, in time for McGrath and Gillespie...'
Or Starc, Johnson, then Hazelwood