Ireland v Italy
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Debut for Lowry as Ireland change six but Sexton given bench role
Head coach Andy Farrell has named his Ireland team for Sunday's round three Guinness Six Nations match against Italy in Dublin.
Ireland
15 Michael Lowry (Ulster/Banbridge) uncapped
14 Mack Hansen (Connacht) 2 caps
13 Garry Ringrose (Leinster/UCD) 39 caps
12 Robbie Henshaw (Leinster/Buccaneers) 54 caps
11 James Lowe (Leinster) 9 caps
10 Joey Carbery (Munster/Clontarf) 29 caps
9 Jamison Gibson Park (Leinster) 14 caps
1 Andrew Porter (Leinster/UCD) 42 caps
2 Dan Sheehan (Leinster/Lansdowne) 4 caps
3 Tadhg Furlong (Leinster/Clontarf) 54 caps
4 Tadhg Beirne (Munster/Lansdowne) 27 caps
5 Ryan Baird (Leinster/Dublin University) 7 caps
6 Peter O’Mahony (Munster/Cork Constitution) 81 caps CAPTAIN
7 Josh van der Flier (Leinster/UCD) 37 caps
8 Caelan Doris (Leinster/St Mary’s College) 14 caps16 Rob Herring (Ulster/Ballynahinch) 23 caps
17 Dave Kilcoyne (Munster/UL Bohemians) 45 caps
18 Finlay Bealham (Connacht/Buccaneers) 20 caps
19 Kieran Treadwell (Ulster/Ballymena) 3 caps
20 Jack Conan (Leinster/Old Belvedere) 24 caps
21 Craig Casey (Munster/Shannon) 4 caps
22 Johnny Sexton (Leinster/St Mary’s College) 102 caps
23 James Hume (Ulster/Banbridge) 2 caps
Italy
15 Edoardo PADOVANI (Benetton Rugby, 32 caps)
14 Pierre BRUNO (Zebre Parma, 1 cap)
13 Juan Ignacio BREX (Benetton Rugby, 10 caps)
12 Leonardo MARIN (Benetton Rugby, 2 caps)
11 Montanna IOANE (Benetton Rugby, 11 caps)
10 Paolo GARBISI (Montpellier, 15 caps)
9 Stephen VARNEY (Gloucester Rugby, 11 caps)
8 Toa HALAFIHI (Benetton Rugby, 2 caps)
7 Michele LAMARO (Benetton Rugby, 12 caps) – captain
6 Giovanni PETTINELLI (Benetton Rugby, 3 caps)
5 Federico RUZZA (Benetton Rugby, 27 caps)
4 Niccolò CANNONE (Benetton Rugby, 17 caps)
3 Pietro CECCARELLI (Brive, 18 caps)
2 Gianmarco LUCCHESI (Benetton Rugby, 10 caps)
1 Danilo FISCHETTI (Zebre Parma, 17 caps16 Epalahame FAIVA (Benetton Rugby, 3 caps)
17 Ivan NEMER (Benetton Rugby, 4 caps)
18 Tiziano PASQUALI (Benetton Rugby, 23 caps)
19 David SISI (Zebre Parma, 18 caps)
20 Manuel ZULIANI (Benetton Rugby, 1 cap)
21 Braam STEYN (Benetton Rugby, 47 caps)
22 Alessandro FUSCO (Fiamme Oro Rugby/Zebre Parma, 3 caps)
23 Marco ZANON (Benetton Rugby, 9 caps) -
Yes, the game completely ruined and you've got to feel sorry for the Italians, fucking ridiculous law.
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Absolute joke
Moronic law amendment from World Rugby
England must be very grateful that this law wasn’t in force when Hartley was playing
And BOD is a complete cock
15 v 14 is no advantage if you go to uncontested scrums
Fuck off
At minute 64 an Irish forward hit the Italian 12 head high and they didn’t even look at it
Despite the scoreline Ireland have been unimpressive
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And whilst I feel sorry for Italy I cannot understand why the fuck you would box kick possession away when you’re 43-6 down
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And now an Italian has been YC for doing a Luke Cowan Dickie even though the Irish player had his arm locked up
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@mikethesnow
Worst game by Ireland in years. When you are playing against 13 then against 12 men, you should score at least 15 tries. -
@cgrant said in Ireland v Italy:
@mikethesnow
Worst game by Ireland in years. When you are playing against 13 then against 12 men, you should score at least 15 tries.Absolutely
Ireland are the new England
Easily disliked
Italy down to 12 men for the last 10 minutes and Ireland go for catch & drive from the lineout
Then continue to play pick and go
Flat track bullies
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@mikethesnow said in Ireland v Italy:
@cgrant said in Ireland v Italy:
@mikethesnow
Worst game by Ireland in years. When you are playing against 13 then against 12 men, you should score at least 15 tries.Absolutely
Ireland are the New England
Steady on there bro.
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no wonder the NH teams didnt want the 20 min RC...such a great spectacle that game was.
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@antipodean said in Ireland v Italy:
Italy were always going to lose this fixture because that's what they're in the 6N for, but they've a legitimate claim about shit refereeing. Red card vs ignored:
Yep
Called that during the match
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@mikethesnow said in Ireland v Italy:
@cgrant said in Ireland v Italy:
@mikethesnow
Worst game by Ireland in years. When you are playing against 13 then against 12 men, you should score at least 15 tries.Absolutely
Ireland are the new England
Easily disliked
Italy down to 12 men for the last 10 minutes and Ireland go for catch & drive from the lineout
Then continue to play pick and go
Flat track bullies
Calm down. Its not as though ireland are still playing Schmidtball. Farrell is picking a mobile, ball playing team that's good to watch usually. Why get upset over a nothing game like that?
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@profitius said in Ireland v Italy:
@mikethesnow said in Ireland v Italy:
@cgrant said in Ireland v Italy:
@mikethesnow
Worst game by Ireland in years. When you are playing against 13 then against 12 men, you should score at least 15 tries.Absolutely
Ireland are the new England
Easily disliked
Italy down to 12 men for the last 10 minutes and Ireland go for catch & drive from the lineout
Then continue to play pick and go
Flat track bullies
Calm down. Its not as though ireland are still playing Schmidtball. Farrell is picking a mobile, ball playing team that's good to watch usually. Why get upset over a nothing game like that?
I think he explained it well. Same reason I dislike the Brumbies.
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Regardless of anything else, surely it must be consensus that Italy having to play with 13 men was a really shit outcome. I wonder if you surveyed the 40,000 people there, how many would say they were happy with the way this worked out.
It seems that Italy lost their first hooker to injury, so be it. And then the second was red carded. So apparently the rule is that if you cannot have contested scrums due to a carded player, then you must lose an extra player. I guess the thought process is that you are effectively removing a potential opposition attacking weapon, in order to keep it equitable, the law book thinks removing a second player is the equivalent of contested scrums.
Firstly, this is a complete fallacy. It makes the assumption that your scrum was the weaker one to start off with. Which is not necessarily the case.
Secondly, who the fuck could write a law book that states, that 13 vs 15 players is something that can happen, and something that anybody wants to be a part of, or witness. That's completely fucked up. Yes, you could argue the Italy hooker should know the rules and watch himself etc, but it's not like it was a clear punch. It was misapplied tackle. Exactly the same thing Ireland got nothing for as shown a couple of posts above.
A contest is still a contest, abelt a more difficult one at 14 vs 15. The blame for this tilt lies squarely at the red card offender. But 13 vs 15 isn't rugby. That's something else. This totally isn't fair, but It's a black mark for me against the Irish captain for not chatting to the referee and stating, "this is absurd, Italy shouldn't have to play with 13, can I ask for them to be allowed another player". What would you rather be, captain of a winning team in which you had an absurd unfair advantage, or the captain who questioned the rules & asked for them to be bent in our oppositions favour to ensure a game could be played in front of a crowd of paying guests. Ireland were never going to lose against 15, let alone 14. This sort of gesture is career defining & sets you up for life in your post rugby retirement.
Whoever made this rule, and whoever was involved in approving it should be banished from global sport forever. Not just rugby, sport.
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@antipodean said in Ireland v Italy:
@profitius said in Ireland v Italy:
@mikethesnow said in Ireland v Italy:
@cgrant said in Ireland v Italy:
@mikethesnow
Worst game by Ireland in years. When you are playing against 13 then against 12 men, you should score at least 15 tries.Absolutely
Ireland are the new England
Easily disliked
Italy down to 12 men for the last 10 minutes and Ireland go for catch & drive from the lineout
Then continue to play pick and go
Flat track bullies
Calm down. Its not as though ireland are still playing Schmidtball. Farrell is picking a mobile, ball playing team that's good to watch usually. Why get upset over a nothing game like that?
I think he explained it well. Same reason I dislike the Brumbies.
So ireland were supposed to take it easy on the italians? And if ireland miss out on the championship by points difference - which has happened before - they can console themselves in the fact that they took it easy on the italians?
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@profitius said in Ireland v Italy:
@antipodean said in Ireland v Italy:
@profitius said in Ireland v Italy:
@mikethesnow said in Ireland v Italy:
@cgrant said in Ireland v Italy:
@mikethesnow
Worst game by Ireland in years. When you are playing against 13 then against 12 men, you should score at least 15 tries.Absolutely
Ireland are the new England
Easily disliked
Italy down to 12 men for the last 10 minutes and Ireland go for catch & drive from the lineout
Then continue to play pick and go
Flat track bullies
Calm down. Its not as though ireland are still playing Schmidtball. Farrell is picking a mobile, ball playing team that's good to watch usually. Why get upset over a nothing game like that?
I think he explained it well. Same reason I dislike the Brumbies.
So ireland were supposed to take it easy on the italians? And if ireland miss out on the championship by points difference - which has happened before - they can console themselves in the fact that they took it easy on the italians?
But you've already lost to the eventual winners!
Quite frankly a team that doesn't demonstrate the ability, interest or intent to spread the ball and enjoy themselves against 12 with the result sewn up doesn't deserve to win a title.
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@antipodean said in Ireland v Italy:
@profitius said in Ireland v Italy:
@antipodean said in Ireland v Italy:
@profitius said in Ireland v Italy:
@mikethesnow said in Ireland v Italy:
@cgrant said in Ireland v Italy:
@mikethesnow
Worst game by Ireland in years. When you are playing against 13 then against 12 men, you should score at least 15 tries.Absolutely
Ireland are the new England
Easily disliked
Italy down to 12 men for the last 10 minutes and Ireland go for catch & drive from the lineout
Then continue to play pick and go
Flat track bullies
Calm down. Its not as though ireland are still playing Schmidtball. Farrell is picking a mobile, ball playing team that's good to watch usually. Why get upset over a nothing game like that?
I think he explained it well. Same reason I dislike the Brumbies.
So ireland were supposed to take it easy on the italians? And if ireland miss out on the championship by points difference - which has happened before - they can console themselves in the fact that they took it easy on the italians?
But you've already lost to the eventual winners!
Quite frankly a team that doesn't demonstrate the ability, interest or intent to spread the ball and enjoy themselves against 12 with the result sewn up doesn't deserve to win a title.
Hear fucking hear
