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    @tim so man management. Who was mismanaged or did they throw that out there because it sounds fancy?

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    I'm guessing that the starting tight five for this year is firming up. I can see it being the following:

    1 Moody
    2 Taukei'aho
    3 Tu'ungafasi
    4 Barrett
    5 Retallick (still there on reputation)

    Really hoping that one lock will emerge from the pack to replace Retallick, who is purely in the squad on reputation. Not convinced by Vaa'i. Lord looks to have the goods, but is probably a year away. Plenty of time for more dynamic loose heads like Hodgman, de Groot, and Norris would be great. I'm assuming that Coles won't make it to 2023. Aumua is on the fringe, and hasn't kicked on. Lomax is middling, and Laulala needs to improve his impact. Tight head is pretty bare. Would be worth giving Newell a couple of games.

    Reserves might be something like:

    Taylor
    Hodgman
    Laulala
    Vaa'i (Whitelock to rotate with Retallick in the starting role)

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    @tim said in All Blacks 2022:

    I'm guessing that the starting tight five for this year is firming up. I can see it being the following:

    1 Moody
    2 Taukei'aho
    3 Tu'ungafasi
    4 Barrett
    5 Retallick (still there on reputation)

    Really hoping that one lock will emerge from the pack to replace Retallick, who is purely in the squad on reputation. Not convinced by Vaa'i. Lord looks to have the goods, but is probably a year away. Plenty of time for more dynamic loose heads like Hodgman, de Groot, and Norris would be great. I'm assuming that Coles won't make it to 2023. Aumua is on the fringe, and hasn't kicked on. Lomax is middling, and Laulala needs to improve his impact. Tight head is pretty bare. Would be worth giving Newell a couple of games.

    Reserves might be something like:

    Taylor
    Hodgman
    Laulala
    Vaa'i (Whitelock to rotate with Retallick in the starting role)

    Picking the top XV is a pretty hard job. Plenty of options in most positions. Very few stand out as head and shoulders better.

    I'll take your Whitelock bait on behalf of the Cantabs though. Would probably sneak him in in front of BBR (needs to earn his third B back).

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    @booboo said in All Blacks 2022:

    Picking the top XV is a pretty hard job.

    Nine and ten are firmly settled (Smith and Barrett). Midfield and loose forward players are the hardest to select. Really hope Jordie Barrett can kick on at 12.

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    Loose forward pool:

    Cane
    Papalii
    Savea
    Ioane
    Sotutu
    Blackadder
    Robinson

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    Midfield is going to be really interesting, especially with Jordie Barrett throwing his hat into the ring. Tupaea appears to have second season syndrome, and has struggled on defence. Goodhue is overcoming his second combination ACL/MCL rupture, but it will be interesting to see how he goes by playoffs time. Ennor is well below international level as a centre.

    Certainties:

    Ioane
    ALB (injured?)

    12 options:

    Tupaea
    Havili
    RTS
    J Barrett
    Goodhue
    (Umaga-Jensens need more game time to be considered)

    13 options:

    Fainga'anuku
    Goodhue
    (PUJ needs more game time to be considered)

    We could see a back line such as the following at some stage this year, which would be interesting:

    9 Smith
    10 B Barrett
    11 Clarke
    12 J Barrett
    13 R Ioane
    14 Reece
    15 Jordan

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    @tim if have the topXV from 7 out as

    Cane, savea, Smith, Barrett, Ioane, Barrett, alb, Reece, Jordan. ?, Mounga, and Leicester on the bench backs.

    Clark hasn't shown enough yet this year, imo. But happy to see a look at yours!

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    @tim i'd put TUJ as a 12 contender (if he can stay fit.... big if)

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    @machpants That is what I am seeing at the moment. Mounga really needs to get his mojo back though. We need someone who can manage the end of the game and that includes kicking for territory (example Steyn in the 2nd test vs ABs).

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    @tim said in All Blacks 2022:

    Midfield is going to be really interesting, especially with Jordie Barrett throwing his hat into the ring. Tupaea appears to have second season syndrome, and has struggled on defence. Goodhue is overcoming his second combination ACL/MCL rupture, but it will be interesting to see how he goes by playoffs time. Ennor is well below international level as a centre.

    Certainties:

    Ioane
    ALB (injured?)

    12 options:

    Tupaea
    Havili
    RTS
    J Barrett
    Goodhue
    (Umaga-Jensens need more game time to be considered)

    13 options:

    Fainga'anuku
    Goodhue
    (PUJ needs more game time to be considered)

    We could see a back line such as the following at some stage this year, which would be interesting:

    9 Smith
    10 B Barrett
    11 Clarke
    12 J Barrett
    13 R Ioane
    14 Reece
    15 Jordan

    I think you should Jordie as 15 contender where I till think he may play for ABs

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    @dan54 Oh I think Jordie will be the 1st choice 15, but I'd like to see him get a run at 12 too.

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    @tim smith, beauden,Clarke,rts,riko,talea, jordie

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    1. De Groot
    2. Taukeiaho
    3. Lomax
    4. Lord
    5. Whitelock (rotates w/ Retallick)
    6. Savea
    7. Cane
    8. PGS
    9. Smith
    10. B. Barrett
    11. Ioane
    12. J. Barrett
    13. ALB
    14. Reece
    15. Jordan
    16. Taylor
    17. Norris
    18. Ta’avo
    19. Vaa’I (S. Barrett?)
    20. Papalii (Jacobson?)
    21. Weber
    22. Mo’unga
    23. Tupaea (TUJ / PUJ / RTS / Nankivell?)

    Wouldn’t mind this team going forward

    Inexperienced props sure but think it’s time to get rid of the older non-performers imo

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    @george33 what team do u support?

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    @yeahtheboys pretty sure he is a Blues supporter

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    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:

    @yeahtheboys pretty sure he is a Blues supporter

    Pretty obvious who @Yeahtheboys supports as well. Terrible team.

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    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:

    @yeahtheboys pretty sure he is a Blues supporter

    That’s the joke…

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    Moody
    Taukeiaho
    Ofa T
    Lord
    Whitelock
    Cane
    Ioane
    Savea
    Smith
    B. Barrett
    L Fainga'anuku
    J. Barrett
    Ioane
    Reece
    Jordan
    Reserves
    Taylor
    Hodgman
    Newell
    S. Barrett
    Papalii
    Christie
    Mo’unga
    Clarke

    Team I would like to see Run on.

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    This Jordie at 12 thing is really interesting.
    Perhaps it depends on whether Jordan is seen as effective enough at test level as a 15.
    How's his defence, positioning, high ball work and kicking game compared to Jordie?
    Obviously his attack is superior.

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    @billy-tell kids these days, when I went to school, jokes were meant to be funny....

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