2022 Women's Cricket World Cup in New Zealand
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@nzzp said in 2022 Women's Cricket World Cup in New Zealand:
@nzbloke said in 2022 Women's Cricket World Cup in New Zealand:
We're now in the embarrassing situation of maybe missing out on making the last 4 in our own backyard.
Last four of eight, with two easy beats in there.
Massive game Sunday. Loser goes home.
We're already home, so that's easy
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reflecting on this, I have enjoyed a number of these games, but there is clearly room for skill improvement - particularly in the fielding. That just takes time and money; was reflecting on rugby players of 30 years ago (pre-professionalism) with how they look now; they're different species. Cricketers are the same, pre-IPL and T20, you didn't see the power hitters you see now.
The womens game will move along the same path; you'll see better athletes, with better conditioning, and better skill levels. I'm all for it; anything that puts more meaningful cricket on the table is going to be a good thing.
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@nzbloke said in 2022 Women's Cricket World Cup in New Zealand:
Halliday, Martin & Mackay lack power at 6,7 and 8, hopeless just working singles when they also need to hit more boundaries as well... have to bring in some of the bigger hitters like Rowe, Tahuhu & J.kerr ahead of some of those 3 at times depending how the game is going, should've done that against South Africa.
Tahuhu and Rowe didn't even trouble the scorer, and neither are reliable batters at international level. The fact is that the NZ tail is long and SA bowled much better in their death overs than NZ did. We saw what Kapp could do at the end when quick runs were needed.
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@bovidae said in 2022 Women's Cricket World Cup in New Zealand:
Tahuhu and Rowe didn't even trouble the scorer, and neither are reliable batters at international level. The fact is that the NZ tail is long and SA bowled much better in their death overs than NZ did. We saw what Kapp could do at the end when quick runs were needed.
in fairness, they lost regular wickets as well. Holing out to Amelia Kerr in the deep on the first ball would have changed the game - it was that tight.
Bottom line si this -both in WI and SA games we did well to drag ourselves back into the contest. But, we couldn't get 6 off the last over with 3 wickets in hand, and SA could with 2. And if we can't step up against England, we're done.
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The unluckiest moment for NZ was with 9 balls left and 12 to win. The number 10 Khaka needs to get off strike and basically hits the ball straight up in the air - and it lands perfectly between bowler, mid-on and mid-off. If that is caught it is 12 needed off 8 and just 1 wicket in hand.
Agree that NZ are half a team away from being able to compete consistently. As are all the teams except Australia it seems. I wonder over the next few years if we will see more natural athletes start to come through, some bowlers who can get consistently over 120km/h and a general improvement in fielding and throwing.
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@bovidae said in 2022 Women's Cricket World Cup in New Zealand:
The Bangles have WI in big trouble - 76/7.
If Aus and SA keeps on winning, there is a chance that the 4th spot could be a team with just 3 wins and the best NRR. If the Bangles can close this out
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@kiwipie said in 2022 Women's Cricket World Cup in New Zealand:
@bovidae said in 2022 Women's Cricket World Cup in New Zealand:
The Bangles have WI in big trouble - 76/7.
If Aus and SA keeps on winning, there is a chance that the 4th spot could be a team with just 3 wins and the best NRR. If the Bangles can close this out
was actually getting nervous that the Aussies could drop a game against India, and they could sneak past us.
There are a lot of ways NZ misses out, not so many where we get through. All we can do is win, and win well.
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@nzzp said in 2022 Women's Cricket World Cup in New Zealand:
@kiwipie said in 2022 Women's Cricket World Cup in New Zealand:
@bovidae said in 2022 Women's Cricket World Cup in New Zealand:
The Bangles have WI in big trouble - 76/7.
If Aus and SA keeps on winning, there is a chance that the 4th spot could be a team with just 3 wins and the best NRR. If the Bangles can close this out
was actually getting nervous that the Aussies could drop a game against India, and they could sneak past us.
There are a lot of ways NZ misses out, not so many where we get through. All we can do is win, and win well.
... to reply to myself
And if the game on Sunday gets washed out (rain is everywhere), then England's superior NRR with games against Bangles and Pakistan probably gets them in ahead of us. Unless they get another washout, and then they're stuffed.
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Banglas are going well against W.I. ....if they get the big upset it's gives us a better chance of staying in the comp.
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@bovidae said in 2022 Women's Cricket World Cup in New Zealand:
@nzbloke said in 2022 Women's Cricket World Cup in New Zealand:
Halliday, Martin & Mackay lack power at 6,7 and 8, hopeless just working singles when they also need to hit more boundaries as well... have to bring in some of the bigger hitters like Rowe, Tahuhu & J.kerr ahead of some of those 3 at times depending how the game is going, should've done that against South Africa.
Tahuhu and Rowe didn't even trouble the scorer, and neither are reliable batters at international level. The fact is that the NZ tail is long and SA bowled much better in their death overs than NZ did. We saw what Kapp could do at the end when quick runs were needed.
To be fair though they had to come in swinging before they could get their eye in properly - if our top 5 can put good partnerships together to put us in a strong position Halliday, Mackay & Martin's slow scoring rates isn't that much of a problem... but if the top 5 don't go that's well we need to adjust & by bringing in those players by at least having one of them at one end, when they do have time to get their eye in they score very quickly.
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@nzbloke Compared to their teammates, you can't blame Martin (SR: 112.5) and Halliday (SR: 82.75) for slow scoring rates in last night's game. Green and Mackay definitely weren't scoring quick enough. NZ doesn't have a power hitter in the lower order. Tahuhu might do that at domestic level but averages <10 @ 77 in ODIs.
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@bovidae said in 2022 Women's Cricket World Cup in New Zealand:
@nzbloke Compared to their teammates, you can't blame Martin (SR: 112.5) and Halliday (SR: 82.75) for slow scoring rates in last night's game. Green and Mackay definitely weren't scoring quick enough. NZ doesn't have a power hitter in the lower order. Tahuhu might do that at domestic level but averages <10 @ 77 in ODIs.
In general Martin is a low scorer, she can hit a 4 playing a cut shot using the pace of the ball, but so can everyone else, but lacks a lot of power in her shots, for example only have to watch her drive a ball etc... also Martin struggles to turn the strike over, so starves the batter at the other end.
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Go the Banglas, they lose this one & NZ are basically out of the tournament
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@nzbloke said in 2022 Women's Cricket World Cup in New Zealand:
Go the Banglas, they lose this one & NZ are basically out of the tournament
are they? I thought this was pretty irrelevant; if anything it opens up the Windies dropping games against SA as well and going out.
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@nzzp said in 2022 Women's Cricket World Cup in New Zealand:
@nzbloke said in 2022 Women's Cricket World Cup in New Zealand:
Go the Banglas, they lose this one & NZ are basically out of the tournament
are they? I thought this was pretty irrelevant; if anything it opens up the Windies dropping games against SA as well and going out.
With the Windies getting the two points they jumped ahead of us & we're playing pretty erratically... also never a great position to be in when you have to keep winning & rely on other results going your way.
Blanglas stuffed up a great opportunity to beat the Windies... they only had to score a bit under 3 runs per over to get over the line.
