Ashes 2021-22
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@majorrage said in Ashes 2021-22:
Certainly no question that is a thoroughly deserved bronze for Australia in the WTCC.
Clearly better than England. Wonder if this will be a spring board for them to come and play with the big boys now.
Given this extra confidence and with a bit of luck, the Aussies might rise to be beaten Finalists in the next World Test Cricket Championship.
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There are lots of directions to point fingers when looking at this England rabble but I hope they have learned that Stokes is heartless. His dismissals almost always paid a big part in collapses and were usually from totally unnecessary shots.
Is there more to the story or did he just give up and couldn't be arsed?
Root is a rubbish captain but he also had no support from other senior players. -
Marks out of 10: Player ratings for England after their 4-0 Ashes defeat
Australia made it 13 wins out of their last 15 home Ashes Tests at Hobart, consigning England to yet another miserable defeat to end a nightmare tour.
Brutal reading.
Hameed did well to score two out of ten to be honest
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@crucial said in Ashes 2021-22:
There are lots of directions to point fingers when looking at this England rabble but I hope they have learned that Stokes is heartless. His dismissals almost always paid a big part in collapses and were usually from totally unnecessary shots.
Is there more to the story or did he just give up and couldn't be arsed?
Root is a rubbish captain but he also had no support from other senior players.Stokes is heartless?
Ben Stokes has no heart?
Um. Literally lost for words
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@majorrage said in Ashes 2021-22:
@crucial said in Ashes 2021-22:
There are lots of directions to point fingers when looking at this England rabble but I hope they have learned that Stokes is heartless. His dismissals almost always paid a big part in collapses and were usually from totally unnecessary shots.
Is there more to the story or did he just give up and couldn't be arsed?
Root is a rubbish captain but he also had no support from other senior players.Stokes is heartless?
Ben Stokes has no heart?
Um. Literally lost for words
Gotta admit his efforts last night were pretty poor. They were still well in the game when he swung wildly.
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@majorrage said in Ashes 2021-22:
@crucial said in Ashes 2021-22:
There are lots of directions to point fingers when looking at this England rabble but I hope they have learned that Stokes is heartless. His dismissals almost always paid a big part in collapses and were usually from totally unnecessary shots.
Is there more to the story or did he just give up and couldn't be arsed?
Root is a rubbish captain but he also had no support from other senior players.Stokes is heartless?
Ben Stokes has no heart?
Um. Literally lost for words
I'm starting to think @Crucial might be the bloke who Stokes whacked in Bristol. It's the only possible explanation to have it in for him this much!
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@mn5 said in Ashes 2021-22:
@majorrage said in Ashes 2021-22:
@crucial said in Ashes 2021-22:
There are lots of directions to point fingers when looking at this England rabble but I hope they have learned that Stokes is heartless. His dismissals almost always paid a big part in collapses and were usually from totally unnecessary shots.
Is there more to the story or did he just give up and couldn't be arsed?
Root is a rubbish captain but he also had no support from other senior players.Stokes is heartless?
Ben Stokes has no heart?
Um. Literally lost for words
Gotta admit his efforts last night were pretty poor. They were still well in the game when he swung wildly.
Yep.
Saying he’s heartless is absurd though.
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@rotated said in Ashes 2021-22:
@majorrage said in Ashes 2021-22:
@crucial said in Ashes 2021-22:
There are lots of directions to point fingers when looking at this England rabble but I hope they have learned that Stokes is heartless. His dismissals almost always paid a big part in collapses and were usually from totally unnecessary shots.
Is there more to the story or did he just give up and couldn't be arsed?
Root is a rubbish captain but he also had no support from other senior players.Stokes is heartless?
Ben Stokes has no heart?
Um. Literally lost for words
I'm starting to think @Crucial might be the bloke who Stokes whacked in Bristol. It's the only possible explanation to have it in for him this much!
Even I haven’t had a go at him this much.
Cricket is a fluffybunny of a game though, I’m sure all the Wisden articles prior to the series going on about him being the difference didn’t help. He had an extremely poor series unfortunately
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The pinnacle of the series was a closely fought raid affected draw. Not great viewing overall.
That said, it's a regular series between two teams, there will always be periods where one team is a lot better than the other, that's the nature of sport.
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@rotated said in Ashes 2021-22:
@majorrage said in Ashes 2021-22:
@crucial said in Ashes 2021-22:
There are lots of directions to point fingers when looking at this England rabble but I hope they have learned that Stokes is heartless. His dismissals almost always paid a big part in collapses and were usually from totally unnecessary shots.
Is there more to the story or did he just give up and couldn't be arsed?
Root is a rubbish captain but he also had no support from other senior players.Stokes is heartless?
Ben Stokes has no heart?
Um. Literally lost for words
I'm starting to think @Crucial might be the bloke who Stokes whacked in Bristol. It's the only possible explanation to have it in for him this much!
This much? It's the only comment I have made I think? ( There may have been the odd 'wtf was that' during a game)
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@crucial said in Ashes 2021-22:
@rotated said in Ashes 2021-22:
@majorrage said in Ashes 2021-22:
@crucial said in Ashes 2021-22:
There are lots of directions to point fingers when looking at this England rabble but I hope they have learned that Stokes is heartless. His dismissals almost always paid a big part in collapses and were usually from totally unnecessary shots.
Is there more to the story or did he just give up and couldn't be arsed?
Root is a rubbish captain but he also had no support from other senior players.Stokes is heartless?
Ben Stokes has no heart?
Um. Literally lost for words
I'm starting to think @Crucial might be the bloke who Stokes whacked in Bristol. It's the only possible explanation to have it in for him this much!
This much? It's the only comment I have made I think? ( There may have been the odd 'wtf was that' during a game)
They might be confusing you with me, I get ferners mixed up all the time in my old age.
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@no-quarter said in Ashes 2021-22:
That said, it's a regular series between two teams, there will always be periods where one team is a lot better than the other, that's the nature of sport.
Agreed - England had a fairly hot run under Strauss/Cook from 2009-2013, with an 8-5-2 record.
If we had been forced to rotate bowlers against India last summer, I wonder if the outcome would have been any different
The pitches were a lot more lively this year, and the revamped Kookaburra ball (+2 pink tests) also made things challenging for the batsmen.
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@majorrage said in Ashes 2021-22:
Clearly better than England. Wonder if this will be a spring board for them to come and play with the big boys now.
Bangladesh are looking pretty good, eh?
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@nta said in Ashes 2021-22:
@no-quarter said in Ashes 2021-22:
That said, it's a regular series between two teams, there will always be periods where one team is a lot better than the other, that's the nature of sport.
Agreed - England had a fairly hot run under Strauss/Cook from 2009-2013, with an 8-5-2 record.
If we had been forced to rotate bowlers against India last summer, I wonder if the outcome would have been any different
The pitches were a lot more lively this year, and the revamped Kookaburra ball (+2 pink tests) also made things challenging for the batsmen.
Well those two could actually, you know……”open” the batting in a respectable manner.
Englands openers were shite even by 90s BC standards.
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