All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour
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@junior said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
@victor-meldrew said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
@junior said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
To be honest, I would completely understand if he came in now or very close to the RWC and basically went all Cantablacks (with a few key plug ins) in order to try and blag a RWC Rassie style.
Sounds like a Crusaders supporter's wet dream
Sounds like success to me,But just a bitter comment really.
Bring on Razor and dump the little fat wombat . -
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@nzzp said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
@sparky said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
Why on earth has that clown Foster dropped Papali'i?
French by 10-14.
I love me some Dalton, but I can understand the switch. Paps has had a great year- Sam's coming back from injury, but is one hell of a solid player. Rest is a real consideration, particularly for people with a heavy workload. 5 tests in consecutive weeks means rotation.
@KiwiMurph I think the only reason they haven't figured it out is the presumption that Ardie has to be in there. That starts to drive other decisions - height, offense/defense, etc.
Would this be the first time our 8 is the smallest of the loose trio? (IMaybe Ardie is slightly taller than Sam C but it would be close).
The team must really rate Shannon and no brainer to see the pace and power of Bridge return on the wing. -
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
@bovidae I dont think he looks as comfortable on the left wing.
Bridge? me either, ive said before im not sure why we're playing a full back type wing on the left when we've had decades of success with either a power winger (lomu, savea, ioane) or a flyer (roko)...we've always tending to play the fullback type at 14
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@bovidae said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
@tim said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
@bovidae That's what I meant. He's had almost no game time due to recovery time.
It's time for Ofa to be the starting AB TH but his role at the Blues will likely remain as the impact sub.
Bring on Ofa at half-time.
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@nzzp said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
@sparky said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
Why on earth has that clown Foster dropped Papali'i?
French by 10-14.
I love me some Dalton, but I can understand the switch. Paps has had a great year- Sam's coming back from injury, but is one hell of a solid player. Rest is a real consideration, particularly for people with a heavy workload. 5 tests in consecutive weeks means rotation.
@KiwiMurph I think the only reason they haven't figured it out is the presumption that Ardie has to be in there. That starts to drive other decisions - height, offense/defense, etc.
Ardie seemed mostly well contained against the Irish, I wonder if he suffered an injury or they buried him in the rucks?
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@kiwiwomble I was talking Reece.
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@toddy said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
Gonna be a tough watch when Fizzell gets on the field. I'm all for second chances but his selection with no stand down is hard to take. Really disappointing imo.
I agree with you, esp that Foster comment that Shannon is "family".
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@taniwharugby oh, ok then, i thought reece did against fiji....but much less so on the weekend
point stand re bridge, he just quite a different player compared to our other left wing options...but we try and play the same
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@kiwiwomble I think all round our backs just arent firing, we have often had a 2 or 3 bigger guys in our backs, whereas now, we are largely a smaller back division and dont have players to attract defence (as a runner or decoy)
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
@victor-meldrew true, but the basics for a good 9 is a good passing game, good kicking game, good defender, good organiser...Aaron is exceptional at 2 aspects of those skills, very good at another and pretty good at the other.
For me they would be ranked in this order:
1 Passing game
2 Organising
3 Kicking
4 defendingCan't disagree with any of that and Christie & Webber to me are way ahead of TJP on 1-3. Been impressed with Christie and he doesn't look out of place at Test level albeit he hasn't ben tested against top tier nations. Both way behind Nugget, but we need to give them way more game time.
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@kiwimurph I think the changing up of the lineup was inevitable with the structure of our season. 5 on the trot and then a short break and another 5 on the trot. Pretty unique when we don’t have a massive squad.
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@bovidae said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
At least with Bridge starting, he will set a target for the forwards. Likely only a few metres away after receiving the ball.
After last week's performance, I'm not sure that's a bad thing - we might actually retain more ball
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@victor-meldrew yeah is always frustrating when they bring guys in, but dont use them, and last week the thinking that TJ could close out the game rather than give Christie a run in a real test environment says it all.
BUt agreed, think Christie has looked upto it at this level and deserved to get out there last week.
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@junior said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
He said the biggest difference was the amount of time they out into the basics - catching, passing, tackling, rucking, pushing in scrums, jumping in lineouts. He said in few short weeks in camp his basic skills had improved massively. Whereas at Super level the skills were almost assumed and a bit of afterthought, something they did as a bit of warmup before working on set piece moves and general patterns.
Then I'd suggest someone in the NZRFU should be asking bloody hard questions about the quality of coaching at Super Rugby level and how it feeds into and impacts the coaching and performance of the national team.
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@victor-meldrew said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
@junior said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
He said the biggest difference was the amount of time they out into the basics - catching, passing, tackling, rucking, pushing in scrums, jumping in lineouts. He said in few short weeks in camp his basic skills had improved massively. Whereas at Super level the skills were almost assumed and a bit of afterthought, something they did as a bit of warmup before working on set piece moves and general patterns.
Then I'd suggest someone in the NZRFU should be asking bloody hard questions about the quality of coaching at Super Rugby level and how it feeds into and impacts the coaching and performance of the national team.
agreed, i know it was my point originally that they should be working on these aspects thats have been failing, but it would be a huge concern if they are doing MORE on the basics in an AB camp than in the MONTHS they are with their super teams
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@victor-meldrew said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
@junior said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
He said the biggest difference was the amount of time they out into the basics - catching, passing, tackling, rucking, pushing in scrums, jumping in lineouts. He said in few short weeks in camp his basic skills had improved massively. Whereas at Super level the skills were almost assumed and a bit of afterthought, something they did as a bit of warmup before working on set piece moves and general patterns.
Then I'd suggest someone in the NZRFU should be asking bloody hard questions about the quality of coaching at Super Rugby level and how it feeds into and impacts the coaching and performance of the national team.
That was over a decade ago if that was from 2010.
2010 was back when Foster was coaching the Chiefs so of course the skills were lacking at Super level.......
