All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour
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@sparky said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:
@duluth Havili shoved out of the way off the ball before the Dorris try. Created the gap. Try shouldn't have stood.
I thought that when watching live but then the replay from behind didn't show it so I thought I was overthinking.
Before the run was even made I thought 'illegal cleanout away from the ball" then wondered if that opened a channel. -
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@sparky said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:
@crucial Clever, sneaky stuff from Ireland. Turned the whole game. Next time the ABs are officiated by Luke Pearce, they need to be prepared to bleat like soccer players.
No, it was early morning eyesight. Just watched replay and the break was from the next ruck. Havili was pushed away at the previous but it had no effect.
The bleating at the ref did us no favours as he ignored it even when he should have taken action.
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@crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:
@sparky said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:
@crucial Clever, sneaky stuff from Ireland. Turned the whole game. Next time the ABs are officiated by Luke Pearce, they need to be prepared to bleat like soccer players.
No, it was early morning eyesight. Just watched replay and the break was from the next ruck. Havili was pushed away at the previous but it had no effect.
The bleating at the ref did us no favours as he ignored it even when he should have taken action.
Pearce did a great job at telling Sexton to piss off.
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@majorrage said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:
2 more comments.
Refs decisions were excellent. Too slow, too many replays but his job was done fine.
The lack of a McCaw was telling. We played like dickheads and nobody was there to say so.
I like Whitelock as a player and he seems to be an OK skip most of the time but he goes missing in games like this as a captain.
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@crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:
@majorrage said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:
2 more comments.
Refs decisions were excellent. Too slow, too many replays but his job was done fine.
The lack of a McCaw was telling. We played like dickheads and nobody was there to say so.
I like Whitelock as a player and he seems to be an OK skip most of the time but he goes missing in games like this as a captain.
probably no one else who could step up though, except maybe Sam Cane.
Also, want to shout out again to Dalton Papali'i who has quietly put together an incredible season. last year if you'd suggested he would be one of the AB standouts and a lock in the 7 jersey you would have been laughed at. What a player.
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Just watched the first half. Very passive defense from All Blacks, and poor ball carrying and security. Ireland dominated collisions.
Blackadder is a mediocre seven playing at blindside. Busy, but ineffective tackling and ball carrying. Retallick's ball carrying is awful. He better get a lot better next year. Savea ineffective.
Perenara is a terrible halfback, but an excellent defensive player.
Who took the quick tap from the 22? Idiot.
Papalii best AB on the field.
With our weak ball carrying pack, we need a ball carrying 12 and a power wing. We have neither.
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@sparky said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:
Not sure either Whitelock or Retallick are going to be first-choice by the time of the next RWC.
not so sure.
Both coming back from offseasons; Retallick in particular I back ot get back to fitness. Super next year should be interesting to see who really gets galvanised by this.
in some ways, this is the post-nut clarity of losing so many legends in 2015. The dropoff has been massive
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@nzzp said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:
@sparky said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:
Not sure either Whitelock or Retallick are going to be first-choice by the time of the next RWC.
not so sure.
Both coming back from offseasons; Retallick in particular I back ot get back to fitness. Super next year should be interesting to see who really gets galvanised by this.
in some ways, this is the post-nut clarity of losing so many legends in 2015. The dropoff has been massive
Eerily similar to 1997 when ABs lost a lot of world class players. What happened after that?
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There was a moment in the match where we were under the pump and needed to clear our line, and the ball went to Havili at first receiver who made a pretty poor clearing kick while Mo'unga just sort of stood in the background doing nothing. Which summed up Mo'unga's issues at this level; at that stage of the game we needed our 10 to command the ball and direct play, but he just went missing completely.
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Despite Ireland's dominance we managed to claw our way back into the game, and were a very marginal forward pass call away from taking the lead. Further to that, in the lead up to the disallowed try there were two YC offenses from the Irish - a high shot on Rieko and then a professional foul sealing the ball off on their own line. A YC would have changed the dynamics of the game.
We were outplayed but that was a period of poor officiating at a crucial stage in the match.
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@tim said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:
43 minutes and Irish hooker goes through tackle of Blackadder to score. Passive defense again. Can't play guys like him at 6 against big packs. Ineffective.
Went far too high, didn't he. Cane, McCaw or Kaino would have put their body on the line and gone for the low chop tackle there.
