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@Kiwidom said in Super Rugby News: Injuries:
@Tim Southland hooker Braeden Mitchell has been called into the Chiefs as injury cover (assume that's for Harris)
While Mitchell did not pick up a full contract with a Super Rugby team following the Stags campaign he has since been called into the Chiefs as a replacement player. He has been snapped up to train with Chiefs in Hamilton through December and January but it is expected that time frame with the Chiefs may stretch out further if it works out well for Mitchell.
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Interesting, playing a game with the blues?
http://www.allblacks.com/News/30220/milner-skudder-targets-brisbane-tens-for-return -
Is that just written in a confusing way?
Preseason game with (ie. that also involves) the Blues. Or will he be in the Blues side? -
@pukunui said in Super Rugby News: Injuries:
Is that just written in a confusing way?
Preseason game with (ie. that also involves) the Blues. Or will he be in the Blues side?Bad writing.
The Tens seems like such an idiotic idea. Rugby already fucking has an established short form version, you dicks. Sevens. What the fuck does a Brisbane Tens bring that a Brisbane Sevens wouldn't?
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As much as id love to see NMS at the Blues he is with the Canes - its the way the story is written.
I think the reason for the 10s is because they want it to sort of double as a semi Super Rugby preseason - you can get a better cross section of players that way - e.g. Tongan Bear Loni Uhila is playing the 10s - he wouldnt play the 7s.
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Not really a fan of 7's myself. Hopefully 10's is a bit more like "real" rugby.
Having said that I agree, stupid idea. Can't see it lasting very long.
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Colin Cooper for the Chiefs. That would be a retrograde step IMO.
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@Billy-Tell said in Super Rugby News: Injuries:
Colin Cooper for the Chiefs. That would be a retrograde step IMO.
Que? Has something been mentioned? I would think that KK is lined up.
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@Crucial said in Super Rugby News: Injuries:
@Billy-Tell said in Super Rugby News: Injuries:
Colin Cooper for the Chiefs. That would be a retrograde step IMO.
Que? Has something been mentioned? I would think that KK is lined up.
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Disappointed to read this news. I have nothing against Cooper, as he's a good coach, but I don't like the idea of recycling coaches at Super level.
My choice would be Keane but if Cooper is announced as the new Chiefs' coach this week there will be a complete clean-out of the coaching staff. His choice of assistants will be just as important.
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@Bovidae said in Super Rugby News: Injuries:
Disappointed to read this news. I have nothing against Cooper, as he's a good coach, but I don't like the idea of recycling coaches at Super level.
My choice would be Keane but if Cooper is announced as the new Chiefs' coach this week there will be a complete clean-out of the coaching staff. His choice of assistants will be just as important.
Bloody hell. What was the point of bringing Keane in? Cooper as an assistant sounds good.
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Guess this could go in this thread...?
Wants a bit of time to build some bridges
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@KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby News: Injuries:
As much as id love to see NMS at the Blues he is with the Canes - its the way the story is written.
I think the reason for the 10s is because they want it to sort of double as a semi Super Rugby preseason - you can get a better cross section of players that way - e.g. Tongan Bear Loni Uhila is playing the 10s - he wouldnt play the 7s.
Not sure how much more use Uhila would be though, seems to me you'd still have to be super fit to play however many games in a day.
As for the Colin Cooper news, that's disappointing. I wanted to see Keane take over and Cooper be one of his assistants.
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@taniwharugby An interesting detail from the Herald's article on that rumour:
His son Bryn, who was educated in London when Gatland snr coached at Wasps from 2001, is a promising fly half who could well line up for Auckland Blues against the Lions after impressing for North Harbour this season.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=11769248
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What's also interesting is that 2001 is less than 9 years ago.
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We already knew Read was getting (wrist) surgery, because Robertson had already mentioned it before the November internationals and that Read would miss the beginning of the SR season. What's new is the more specific time frame, April, which is quite a bit later than I thought it would be.
It will be interesting to see who'll play at 8 until April. Will they shift Taufua to 8, and name one of the less experienced players at 6; or will they select one of those less experienced players at 8? Jed Brown is more a 7, isn't he? So either Pete Samu or Bedwell-Curtis at 8 if one of them gets a start?
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Whitelock has been named captain for the entire campaign.
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@taniwharugby Yeah, it's very similar to the last few years of McCaw's All Blacks captaincy, when Read took over that role at the Crusaders.
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It's busy at the NZR negotiation table:
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@Lozzy said in Super Rugby News: Injuries:
@Unco
Why would Coops want to be Keane's assistant ? He walloped him just a couple of years ago in NPCWhy would Wayne Smith want to be Rennie's assistant? He was a fuckin All Blacks coach.
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@Lozzy said in Super Rugby News: Injuries:
@Unco
Why would Coops want to be Keane's assistant ? He walloped him just a couple of years ago in NPCOn the other hand, he got his ass handed to him in a hat this year by Keane's assistant and Mark "The Hammer" Hammett!
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@Lozzy said in Super Rugby News: Injuries:
@Unco
On point. But Keane is not Rennie and Coops isn't Smith hahaMaybe but Cooper had 8 seasons at the Canes and came away with nothing. I think he has something to offer, which is why I'd have him as an assistant but I'd rather the spot go to an upcoming coach than going back to the well.
Same thing goes with Deans if he ever comes back to NZ and Fozzie if he ever leaves the ABs setup.
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So turns out Gatland was offered the Chiefs role, he knocked it back (assume this is where the rumours about him staying in NZ after the Lions) and confirmed he will see out his Welsh contract.
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All of this is a bit odd though regarding KK.
I thought he stepped up to the Chiefs with a view of taking over from Rennie.
Either the Chiefs management aren't getting good feedback or KK won't commit to the time period they want, has a better offer overseas and is jumping from NZ rugby without even doing a full Super gig. -
Also posted this in the Mitre 10 Cup thread:
Ta$man Mako$ (and former Highlanders) prop Ross Geldenhuys returns to South Africa ... Quite a step down from the Highlanders, but I guess a contract at the Kings is better than no contract at all and it's in his home country.
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had heard Geldenhuys was eying a move from Ta$man at one point, although I believe this was driven by not getting a Super contract
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think joe royal been drafted in to blues for pre season
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Southland first five Wharanui Hawera has picked up a full time contract at the Brumbies for 2017. (He's the guy who was kicking 60m penalties in the Mitre 10 cup.)
Otago winger Faaasi Fuatai and flankers Dillon Hunt and Adam Knight have been drafted to the Highlanders for pre season -
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Cooper confirmed.
Former Hurricanes coach Colin Cooper has been named the next Chiefs coach, taking over from Scotland-bound Dave Rennie in 2018.
Rennie has led the Chiefs since 2012, and won a pair of Super Rugby titles in his first two seasons.
Cooper has added to an impressive resume in recent years, scooping a provincial title with Taranaki in 2014 and successfully defending the Ranfurly Shield seven times from 2011.
Prior to his time with Taranaki, who are in the Chiefs region, Cooper led the Hurricanes for eight seasons from 2003 to 2011, making five playoff appearances.
Cooper has also been head coach of the New Zealand Maori team since 2013.
"To be involved in coaching Super Rugby again within the ambitious and innovative setup at the Chiefs is exciting and to have the opportunity to develop young players and coaches for the future of New Zealand rugby is something I'm very passionate about," Cooper said.
"I strongly believe that establishing a cohesive team culture where our people are constantly striving to become better people as well as better players, coaches and administrators is the only way to create meaningful long-term success. I'm excited by what's to come in the near future beginning with the Maori All Blacks and Taranaki in 2017, and then launching into a new era with the Gallagher Chiefs in 2018."
The Chiefs will undertake a process in the New Year to confirm the wider coaching group for 2018.
Colin Cooper - Coaching CV
2013 - 2017: Head Coach, Maori All Blacks
2010 - 2017: Head Coach, Port Taranaki Bulls (2014 ITM Cup Premiership Winners, 2011 Ranfurly Shield)
2003 - 2010: Head Coach, Hurricanes
2005 - 2009: Co-Coach, New Zealand Junior All Blacks
2002: Forwards Coach, Crusaders
2001: Head Coach, New Zealand Under 21s
1999 - 2002: Head Coach of Taranaki, National Provincial Championship
1997 - 1998: Assistant Coach of Taranaki, National Provincial Championship
1996 - 1997: Director of Coaching at Taranaki Rugby
1993 - 1994: Assistant Coach of Taranaki, National Provincial Championship -
Pretty good appointment I reckon, no problem with "going back to the well" as it's been put - it's worked before.
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@Bones said in Super Rugby News: Injuries:
Pretty good appointment I reckon, no problem with "going back to the well" as it's been put - it's worked before.
Like if the Crusaders bring back Toddy in a couple of seasons...
Think it's a retrograde step myself. I suppose they couldn't get Schmidt nor Gatland (no big loss imo for Gatland), and Keane seems to have rubbed people up the wrong way in both Crusaders and Chiefs territory so maybe it was the default option.
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@Billy-Tell said in Super Rugby News: Injuries:
Think it's a retrograde step myself. I suppose they couldn't get Schmidt nor Gatland (no big loss imo for Gatland), and Keane seems to have rubbed people up the wrong way in both Crusaders and Chiefs territory so maybe it was the default option.
Sure Keane wasn't complimentary to the Crusaders (justifiable, given how Ta$man players were ignored) but I haven't heard anything at the Chiefs to suggest there are any issues.
So Cooper has a 3-yr deal and we wait to see who his assistants are. That will be just as important to attract players.
Gats is back in 2020...
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Manawatu Turbos prop Fraser Armstrong called into the Canes' squad as injury replacement player until February.
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