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<p>The word bin is taken quite literally in Port Elizabeth, I see:</p>
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<p>Jaguares have had a number of games where they have had multiple YC's havent they?</p>
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Jaguares have had a number of games where they have had multiple YC's havent they?</p></blockquote>
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Partly their own I'll discipline but also because they play in the South African conference with mainly South African refs.<br><br>
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<p>This how South Africa's <em>Super Sport</em> described the red cards:</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.supersport.com/rugby/super-rugby/news/160527/Kings_win_as_Jaguares_see_red'>http://www.supersport.com/rugby/super-rugby/news/160527/Kings_win_as_Jaguares_see_red</a></p>
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<p>The first red came as Thomas Lavanini charged into a ruck without arms and shoulder-charged Schalk Oelofse. With the recycled ball kicked cross field by Nicolas Sanchez for Emilliano Bofelli to collect and score, it looked as if the Jaguares were on the scoreboard for the first try.</p>
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<p>But in a controversial decision the TMO, Marius Jonker, called the ref's attention to the shoulder charge, with referee Bryant suggesting a red for an incident that didn’t look that serious, nor worthy of the sanction it received.</p>
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<p>A few minutes later Ramiro Herrera went in with his shoulder to the head of Steven Sykes, who was lying on the floor at the ruck and considering the fact that the previous incident was deemed red, it left Bryant with no option but to give the red a second time (although this time deservedly so).</p>
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<p>Only saw the 2nd half of the game so I missed the 2 reds but that is disgraceful reffing. He shouldn't be allowed to ref another super rugby game ever.</p>
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<p>The second one look legit to me. The Jaguars have been ill disciplined and dirty and you play that side of the ledger too often and you will end up paying. </p>
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<p>2nd was def a YC, but agree, they have been a bit on the dirty side and been getting done, something they will need to sort out if they want to compete in this comp</p> -
There was a cleanout on Vito by a Landers player that was worse then both of those. Crazy decisions.
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="SammyC" data-cid="583440" data-time="1464401222"><p>
Complete fucking horse shit<br>
South African refs are the worst</p></blockquote>
Pretty sure the ref was a kiwi<br><br>
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Bryant was the ref that lost composure when landers beat the tahs too -
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I'd like to see actions like the second red wiped out of the game. The Kings player was taking no part in the ruck at all, it was just thuggery from Herrera. <br><br>
It's crept into the game more and more, and all teams do it. Belting guys around the ruck who aren't taking part in it, just for the sake of it.<br><br>
When you dive on a bloke on the ground like that it's dangerous play, and should be a YC at the very least.<br><br><br>
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<p>It will be interesting what the SANZAAR judiciairy is going to decide, particularly reasons given and suspensions (if any). Red cards always go to a hearing, so we should know more in a couple of days. Didn't look like red cards to me, esp. first one. Nick Bryant is a terrible ref; if I remember it correctly, he stuffed up against the Jaguares early in the season as well (in Arg). But the Jaguares certainly have a serious discipline problem that they need to sort out.</p>
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<p><strong>I'd like to see actions like the second red wiped out of the game. The Kings player was taking no part in the ruck at all, it was just thuggery from Herrera.</strong><br><br>
It's crept into the game more and more, and all teams do it. Belting guys around the ruck who aren't taking part in it, just for the sake of it.<br><br>
When you dive on a bloke on the ground like that it's dangerous play, and should be a YC at the very least.<br><br><br>
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<p>I thought he was lying on the ruck so fair game on the cleanout but not the diving. </p>
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<p>I think the reds were both too harsh, IMHO they should have been yellows (Palu only got a yellow) and the only issue is you see those in every game and you don't see yellows for them in every game.</p> -
Yep, if they are going to crack down on dangerous cleanouts then it has to be consistent. The hit on Vito I mentioned earlier - he was on his back taking no part in the ruck and got hammered. Nobody blinked an eye lid, because it happens every match. 2x reds killed the Jaguares off and made a farce of the game.<br><br>
It reminded me of when Daryl Heir no-balled Murali out of the game even though all other umpires let him bowl. You can't have such inconsistent enforcement of the laws.
