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@Tim said in Super Rugby News:
The Force have played nothing but low skill, low scoring, dogshit rugby for a decade now. Good riddance.
This .
The guy who says he'll leave the country if he doesn't get what he wants ? Yeah that attitude sucks, you probably don't lose much if he does fuck off .
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@jegga It's not like he hasn't fucked off from the Force before.
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@antipodean you're right ,he's played overseas more than he's played for the force in his pro career, in that light he comments look even sillier. I wonder if the wider rugby community will start to get annoyed with the force digging in especially with comments like his?
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@pukunui said in Super Rugby News:
@Bovidae said in Super Rugby News:
@antipodean Dane Haylett-Petty's ultimatum is interesting too.
What did he say?
Im hoping they cut the Rebels. Not exactly sure why. They just seem to be full of ring ins. Plus they were the last ones added.
I agree with this on the basis that at least the Force have tried hard over the years to actually grow the game in an outpost. When they went for ring ins in the past they at least tried to bring in some perceived quality to up the skills of the rest and provide for the fans.
The Rebels just seem to chug along year after year scooping up the dregs from Australia and NZ (plus England if you count Cipriani) and then playing like the mediocre bunch they are. They aren't completely shit but they only serve to weaken the rest of the Oz squads by sucking out the reserve layer. -
Rebels have a far more talented roster than the Force do, but manage to squander it year after year.
Force are plucky battlers who get by on a mix of guts and effort, with very little skill. Makes them boring as shit to watch, though they have turned a corner this year and look to be putting forward one of their best seasons.
They've made big strides at the grassroots too. But the Rebels are privately owned so the ARU risk a big $$ payment if they chop them.
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@barbarian said in Super Rugby News:
Rebels have a far more talented roster than the Force do, but manage to squander it year after year.
Force are plucky battlers who get by on a mix of guts and effort, with very little skill. Makes them boring as shit to watch, though they have turned a corner this year and look to be putting forward one of their best seasons.
They've made big strides at the grassroots too. But the Rebels are privately owned so the ARU risk a big $$ payment if they chop them.
That's the way things have moved recently. The Force are bereft of quality at the moment but what they do have is mostly home-grown now isn't it? I assume due to finances.
The Rebels may have the money to entice a bunch of players to a starting gig instead of being squaddies elsewhere, but that is achieving little for the game and IMO is weakening the other teams.
I guess the big question is which team is in the better position to be stronger after 'the shrinking'.
If the Rebels go then much of their roster will rehome back with the Tahs and Reds, a few of the phone ins will move to Perth.
If the Force go then I am guessing their players (I don't know their origins) will disperse among the 4 others and not add a great deal overall. -
ARU Chairman Cameron Clyne interviewed by former Wallabies coach turned shock jock Alan Jones this morning
Future of super rugby
Alan is joined in the studio by A.R.U chairman Cameron Clyne to talk about the future of the Super rugby competition
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@KiwiMurph Alan Jones is a raving fuckwit. What's the point in bringing a bloke on if you're not going to listen to him?
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@antipodean I actually thought Clyne came across well considering the circumstances (he was also impressive on Kick and Chase a Fox Rugby Show last night). Jones is almost a satire of himself - a walking shock jock stereotype.
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Jesus fucking christ, trying to listen to that interview turned my brain into goo. Alan Jones is a raging fuckwit. First, he bitches and moans about Australian rugby propping up Japan, failing to see the irony in that when his big grand idea is a trans-tasman competiton. Second, he bitches and moans about the expansion to 18 teams as if the Sunwolves, Jaguares and Kings are the reason Australian rugby doesn't have the depth to support five teams. Third, he talks about SANZAAR as if Australia gets to call all the shots. There's plenty of other idiotic shit in there but I couldn't listen to any more.
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@KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby News:
ARU Chairman Cameron Clyne interviewed by former Wallabies coach turned shock jock Alan Jones this morning
Future of super rugby
Alan is joined in the studio by A.R.U chairman Cameron Clyne to talk about the future of the Super rugby competition
Channelling his inner Murray Deaker was he?
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@canefan said in Super Rugby News:
@KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby News:
ARU Chairman Cameron Clyne interviewed by former Wallabies coach turned shock jock Alan Jones this morning
Future of super rugby
Alan is joined in the studio by A.R.U chairman Cameron Clyne to talk about the future of the Super rugby competition
Channelling his inner Murray Deaker was he?
I wouldn't be surprised if he'd channeled Murray Deaker inside him.
You'd think Alan Jones time of being someone who's opinions people gave a fuck about would have finished a long time ago .
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@antipodean I was going to listen to the interview but there's little point. Jones has an agenda and it's obvious that the contrasting way he treated both guests (Sauer and Clyne) reflected that.
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@antipodean said in Super Rugby News:
This is interesting
I can believe that. When I was there I came across a lot of rugby folk that were very big on their club and the Wallabies but didn't connect with Super Rugby much at all
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@taniwharugby said in Super Rugby News:
Alan Jones made a valid point this morning...the ARU has allowed SANZAAR to make them ditch a team, while retaining the Sunwolves...Aus have the ability to veto this as well apparently.
I don't think there is any doubt Aus need to cull one team, but what happens from now going forward will be interesting.
"Alan Jones" and "valid point" makes me think of stopped watches.
But what that reads to me is, if Straya could have vetoed it, they are happy and actually want to ditch a team.
The more I think about it the more I want the Force retained.
Think the Brumbles and the Rabble should form some sort of merged entity.
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@mariner4life said in Super Rugby News:
@taniwharugby all reports i have read say that the ARU actually want to cull a team, it's their decision, they simply can't afford the 5.
They aren't being pushed by SANZAAR, the NZRU aren't bullying them, the need to cut their costs, and that means one team needs to go. Of course the narrative on social media is very different.
The fact it's a decision made by the ARU will make it even more messy if the Force (or the Rebels) and the players union decide to get militant.
What he said...
... just realised I'm three days late getting back to this thread.
