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@taniwharugby all reports i have read say that the ARU actually want to cull a team, it's their decision, they simply can't afford the 5.
They aren't being pushed by SANZAAR, the NZRU aren't bullying them, the need to cut their costs, and that means one team needs to go. Of course the narrative on social media is very different.
The fact it's a decision made by the ARU will make it even more messy if the Force (or the Rebels) and the players union decide to get militant.
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@mariner4life oh I agree, was just an interesting point by Jones, who obviously was looking inward...despite calling for heads last week as well.
Puts them in a tough place, they need more teams, but simply cannot sustain them.
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The reality is the Force, now owned by the ARU, is costing them the most money. Now that the broadcast partner (FoxSports) has said they'll continue giving the same money for less product, the extra TV timeslot means nothing.
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ARU give Western Force and Melbourne Rebels time to mount Super Rugby survival case
Super delay! ARU give Force and Rebels more time
THE ARU has opted to give the Melbourne Rebels and Western Force more time to mount their cases for Super Rugby survival beyond 2017.
“We maintain our commitment to reaching resolution on this matter as soon as possible, however the timeline that we initially anticipated of 48-72 hours will not apply."
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@KiwiMurph Doesn't look at all like the ARU are muddling their way through this rather than adopting a systemic, organised, methodical approach.
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Speaking of which; interesting insights from the CEO of the Force. Particularly on the lack of consultation.
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@antipodean Dane Haylett-Petty's ultimatum is interesting too.
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@Bovidae said in Super Rugby News:
@antipodean Dane Haylett-Petty's ultimatum is interesting too.
What did he say?
Im hoping they cut the Rebels. Not exactly sure why. They just seem to be full of ring ins. Plus they were the last ones added.
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@pukunui said in Super Rugby News:
@Bovidae said in Super Rugby News:
@antipodean Dane Haylett-Petty's ultimatum is interesting too.
What did he say?
Im hoping they cut the Rebels. Not exactly sure why. They just seem to be full of ring ins. Plus they were the last ones added.
It's in that interview with the Force's CEO that Antipodean posted. DHP has apparently said that if the Force is the team to be dropped from SR, he will leave Australia and play elsewhere. So they'll lose another Wallaby.
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@Tim said in Super Rugby News:
The Force have played nothing but low skill, low scoring, dogshit rugby for a decade now. Good riddance.
This .
The guy who says he'll leave the country if he doesn't get what he wants ? Yeah that attitude sucks, you probably don't lose much if he does fuck off .
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@jegga It's not like he hasn't fucked off from the Force before.
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@antipodean you're right ,he's played overseas more than he's played for the force in his pro career, in that light he comments look even sillier. I wonder if the wider rugby community will start to get annoyed with the force digging in especially with comments like his?
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@pukunui said in Super Rugby News:
@Bovidae said in Super Rugby News:
@antipodean Dane Haylett-Petty's ultimatum is interesting too.
What did he say?
Im hoping they cut the Rebels. Not exactly sure why. They just seem to be full of ring ins. Plus they were the last ones added.
I agree with this on the basis that at least the Force have tried hard over the years to actually grow the game in an outpost. When they went for ring ins in the past they at least tried to bring in some perceived quality to up the skills of the rest and provide for the fans.
The Rebels just seem to chug along year after year scooping up the dregs from Australia and NZ (plus England if you count Cipriani) and then playing like the mediocre bunch they are. They aren't completely shit but they only serve to weaken the rest of the Oz squads by sucking out the reserve layer. -
Rebels have a far more talented roster than the Force do, but manage to squander it year after year.
Force are plucky battlers who get by on a mix of guts and effort, with very little skill. Makes them boring as shit to watch, though they have turned a corner this year and look to be putting forward one of their best seasons.
They've made big strides at the grassroots too. But the Rebels are privately owned so the ARU risk a big $$ payment if they chop them.
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@barbarian said in Super Rugby News:
Rebels have a far more talented roster than the Force do, but manage to squander it year after year.
Force are plucky battlers who get by on a mix of guts and effort, with very little skill. Makes them boring as shit to watch, though they have turned a corner this year and look to be putting forward one of their best seasons.
They've made big strides at the grassroots too. But the Rebels are privately owned so the ARU risk a big $$ payment if they chop them.
That's the way things have moved recently. The Force are bereft of quality at the moment but what they do have is mostly home-grown now isn't it? I assume due to finances.
The Rebels may have the money to entice a bunch of players to a starting gig instead of being squaddies elsewhere, but that is achieving little for the game and IMO is weakening the other teams.
I guess the big question is which team is in the better position to be stronger after 'the shrinking'.
If the Rebels go then much of their roster will rehome back with the Tahs and Reds, a few of the phone ins will move to Perth.
If the Force go then I am guessing their players (I don't know their origins) will disperse among the 4 others and not add a great deal overall. -
ARU Chairman Cameron Clyne interviewed by former Wallabies coach turned shock jock Alan Jones this morning
Future of super rugby
Alan is joined in the studio by A.R.U chairman Cameron Clyne to talk about the future of the Super rugby competition
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@KiwiMurph Alan Jones is a raving fuckwit. What's the point in bringing a bloke on if you're not going to listen to him?
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@antipodean I actually thought Clyne came across well considering the circumstances (he was also impressive on Kick and Chase a Fox Rugby Show last night). Jones is almost a satire of himself - a walking shock jock stereotype.
Hans Sauer - The Alan Jones Breakfast Show
