All Blacks vs Springboks II
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Our lineout is an embarrassment.
Our forwards are allergic to attacking breakdown.
We need a change of players, and a change of coach for the forwards. This is embarrassing at this point. And it's not like this is a new problem, our forwards have been lazy around the breakdown since at least 2018. I don't know why, but any time we get counterrucked, you can be sure there'll be a couple of forwards looking right at it two metres away.
We seem to deliberately commit the bare minimum number of players to attacking rucks; it may give us an extra pod to pass to but it costs us so much possession and penalties, it's such dumb rugby. But we persist with it anyway. I'm so sick of this shit.
And to be fair, this isn't even a criticism of Foster, this predates his promotion, this is just how we play and it's showing no sign of changing.
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@act-crusader said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@yeetyaah nah hasn’t stopped in previous games.
But didn’t Bridge run some good water today
Best post in ages
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@yeetyaah Dead right. It clogs up every ABs thread haha. We got smacked around up front and the Boks actually use the up and under very well and attack off the back off it. If they had a more rounded fullback, they'd have finished us off earlier imo and probably taken another opportunity in the 1st half.
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@nepia said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@act-crusader said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@yeetyaah nah hasn’t stopped in previous games.
But didn’t Bridge run some good water today
He didn't drop the bottle either.
Exactly. And a bit of praise from the peanut gallery wouldn’t go astray either.
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@kev said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Who was calling the lineouts? Whomever had a shit game.
The only real unforgivable one was that throw to the front when we are 5m out.
Ardie looked to have called that
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@bovidae said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@chris said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@tim said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Shit tactics. Didn't adjust to their ruck tactics.
Very poor captain selection.
No real game plan worse than last week,we learnt nothing.
I blame TJP and Mo'unga at the end. Pick and goes are always 50/50.
Mo'unga really struggles against teams like the Boks and England who are super physical on defense. He got smashed when he came on and hardly featured after that.
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Enjoyable tense test 👌🏻Recovered a bit of pride at least after losses. That pass from Am in first half was epic 😂 and Frans Steyn really gave direction in 2nd 40. Hope the guys all enjoy beers together in shed afterwards 🍻
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@no-quarter said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@gt12 said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Every arrogant fluffybunny who talked about how the Boks couldn’t hang with us should have a good look in the fucking mirror. They play differently and they are fucking dangerous.
Terrible captaincy.
Bad performance by a lot of players in black.
Great performance by a lot of players in green.
If we were so bad and they were so good you'd think they would have won by more then a penalty in overtime.
That was a great test, so much better than last week. Both teams made mistakes but also had moments of pure brilliance, and the end of the match was absolutely hectic. Love test matches like that.
I think it was a great test too, but most on here we’re talking about how we were 15 points better. That’s karma coming home right now.
We aren’t. We’re very evenly matched abd we might want to recognize it. Ardie would be the only forward who shaded their opposite tonight, but only as a player. All told their front 8 was better than ours all night. We need to wake up to that.
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From the starting 15,
Savea was the only LF who stood up,tight Five were shit.
Jordie was great , Weber and Reece played well.
Reiko was pretty good apart from a couple of dropped high balls.
Beuden Barrett had a couple of great runs but generally was pretty shit.
He didn’t control the game at all.
Savea is just not a Captain. -
Yeah... that hurts.
But - the Bokke deserved that.
Around the half-time mark - I was kinda thinking "is this what it looks like when powder is kept dry... and then actually brought out for use?"
Coz... yeah - they played the full game... using what worked against us from the last game, but then also bringing in the backs and counter-attacks.
Well done. Fuck ya.The negative view:
...yeah, I'm with the view that we should have been able to defuse all of that with tactics, Plan B, coaching, blah blah blah. And we just plain didn't. -
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
It's incredibly dumb play to be soft at the contact trying to recycle and count down the clock.
That wasn't the only dumb thing on display tonight, not by a long way.
And whatever character the team was showing in the last 2 games (and it was great to see) went missing tonight. No-one seemed to be taking ownership when things weren't going well - players seemed to be just wandering about.
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@act-crusader said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@kev said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Who was calling the lineouts? Whomever had a shit game.
The only real unforgivable one was that throw to the front when we are 5m out.
Ardie looked to have called that
What about the one to the front when 5m out
