NZ v Australia Test #1
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<p>Ah yes, the umpire has ruined this, not the Kiwis shithouse batting/bowling.</p>
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<p>Illingworth had nothing to do with you guys getting skittled on Day 1, or dropping Smith. Or the next day's benign attack which let Uz and Voges rack up big tons.</p>
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<p>That's why I hate umpiring/reffing blunders. Because it makes losing fans think that the reason they lost was one bad decision by the official, not the fact that they played badly.</p>
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<p>Not to say NZ have lost this test, but it's not looking good.</p> -
Yeah, my comments were tounge in cheek. It's an annoying decision because it's an easy one for the umpire to check, but obviously not the winning or losing of the game.<br><br>
Try and see it from our perspective. It's like the Wallabies have fought their way back into a test after a poor start. They score a crucial try to even things up but the ref makes a howler and calls no try, then the All Blacks run away with it. You think, we didn't lose because of the decision, but for fuck sakes it's already hard enough to beat these fluffybunnies without that bullshit going against you.<br><br>
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<p>they are taking my daughters stance on things...if I cant have 2, I'll have none! </p>
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<p>Yep BCs are the only ones losing this test, as Baabaa said, he didn't drop Smith, or then not do anything about Voges still being there-like getting him out again.</p>
<p>the one thing that is really killing(or hurting) my enjoyment of sport is losers looking to blame the ref/umpire for anything that doesn't go their way!!</p> -
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<p>The point is that the BCs have had 266 deliveries to Voges since to do something about it, and haven't.</p>
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<p>True. But the pitch on day 1 is a different matter to the Basin on day 2.</p>
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<p>We still batted poorly though and the toss to me is the biggest factor. But if we won the toss, my prediction is Australia scores 250, and we reply with about 200. Closer match but I highly doubt it would be playing out like this*</p>
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<p>*unless we were getting umpiring assistance on a pitch already helping batsmen :)</p> -
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<p>True. But the pitch on day 1 is a different matter to the Basin on day 2.</p>
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<p>I can't see any regular vision to make a call on the pitch - just going on second hand info, mainly. But everyone agrees with that assessment.</p>
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<p>But its pretty clear that Hazlewood and Siddle bowling as individuals and a partnership are looking handy, but mainly its the length of the two. Not sure what is up with Bird, but if he's not getting swing then he just doesn't have the pace to contain or remove. That is the biggest difference between the teams.</p>
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<p>BC top order will be a different proposition second time around is my bet, and Smith will want to pile on a few tomorrow before declaring just before lunch. By that stage Voges might have a double and the bowlers can wind up for another crack - Bird may get to redeem himself.</p> -
<p>Now that the order of play (ie. NZ bat some time tomorrow) is pretty much assured, Lyon may really come into play just before each innings break. :think: Three wickets in the first innings, admittedly the tail, but then he didn't get much of a crack at the top 6.</p>
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<p>Nicely put NQ.</p>
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<p>I didn't say there weren't other factors in us getting hammered. Merely that the decision had changed the course of the game. Who knows what might have happened if the shit decision hadn't been made? Aus might well have made 600 anyway, but it has made it hard watching a guy bat all day when he was out for 7 the day before. That doesn't imply that Aus don't deserve to be in a match winning position, simply that the umpire had a say in how they got there. NZ playing poorly as well is beside the point.</p> -
<p>Worst part about cricket when its going against you ? </p>
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<p>It goes on and on for 5 fucken days . Its the worst form of sporting torture . </p> -
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<p>Yeah, my comments were tounge in cheek. It's an annoying decision because it's an easy one for the umpire to check, but obviously not the winning or losing of the game.<br><br>
Try and see it from our perspective. It's like the Wallabies have fought their way back into a test after a poor start. They score a crucial try to even things up but the ref makes a howler and calls no try, then the All Blacks run away with it. You think, we didn't lose because of the decision, but for fuck sakes it's already hard enough to beat these fluffybunnys without that bullshit going against you.<br><br> :)</p>
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<p>I think thats it in a nutshell , for the Black caps to win , they need things to run their way , </p>
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<p>Throw in the crucial toss of the coin with that crucial call , and they are pushing shit uphill from the start , </p>
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<p>The Aussies like the ABs are more capable of recovering , even when that kind of stuff goes against them </p> -
Hopefully we get a shit load of rain.
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As pissed off as I am about the no ball call I'm not taking this as a match changer. Unlike the Llong-Lyon fiasco which I'm convinced cost us the test.<br><br>
This one was a poor decision but shit you get those. We seem to get a lot against Aussie though
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<p>And now we've got to bat for two and a half days ...</p>
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<p>dont worry, this lot have staying power in spades, but they'll be trying to get 850 runs in 2 days to get the Aussies to bat again...</p> -
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<p>dont worry, this lot have staying power in spades, but they'll be trying to get 850 runs in 2 days to get the Aussies to bat again...</p>
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<p>I actually day dream that sort of stuff!!</p> -
<p>Voges-Illingworth made a double and Anderson with a no ball on his 6th ball gives him a C & B on his 7th ball, Aus 9 down</p>
