Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour
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@stargazer said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
I think we need to see Havili next to Mo'unga in a few games, before passing judgment. And not only against Italy, but against stronger opponents. Preferably with Weber starting, too.
In my mind if you can only cope playing with one player then that is the issue. What if Mounga goes off early, you're stuck with ole joe average fumbling around for the rest of the match? Or does he get subbed as soon as Mounga goes off or if Mounga is subbed?
We don't have room for that kind of weakness
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@broughie said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@mikethesnow It’s hard when a player is close to snagging an intercept as opposed to a deliberate knocking the ball down. Might have made the game more interesting.
"Forward".
Down is legal.
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@broughie said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@booboo right. Most of the time they are at least giving the impression of intercepting.
He was scooping it back in with his hand, if he gets it, he's in - he has form! But risk v reward is massive try or YC!
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@broughie said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@booboo right. Most of the time they are at least giving the impression of intercepting.
It's a bugbear of mine (I've got a couple), and it's semantics, but you could be knocking it up and deliberately knocking it forward. You can play the ball in any direction except forward.
Having said that, 9 times out of 10, swatting at a pass will result in the ball travelling forward.
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@stargazer said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@hooroo I'd like to see who actually is the weak link in the combos. It might be BB. We can also form different, alternative combos for different scenarios.
Ha ha! That's awesome!Dunno if the man of the match can be considered the weak link.
We have a horse like him. If the conditions are perfect, the track is perfect, the jockey is perfect, the barrier draw is perfect, and her eating is perfect, then she is all class. Hard thing to make all the swiss cheese holes line up though.
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@machpants Had to reread your post. The “get it” at first glance appeared snarky like do you understand? In light of the rules would have understood a YC but the ref should have discretion which he seemed to take advantage of. He made reference to AB defensive coverage ruling out a definite welsh try.
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Very impressed with the performance tonight and they took their opportunities well. You have to give credit to that win for numbers 1-8, the set piece was excellent, the ruck work was awesome and the hits on D were sensational. I haven't seen the stats but boy were they putting in some work hitting bodies. Paps is a very solid player, almost workmanlike but just gets the job done and tackles hard.
It is clear to me that the backline just isn't working and I actually really feel for ALB, he has really had a merry go round of partners and shifting him between 12/13 hasn't helped. I can't help but feel his combo with QT at the Chiefs and the AB's long term could be worth trying. HV unfortunately just looks uncomfortable, makes errors, and lacks penetration.
Overall a wonderful display of skill and very enjoyable morning.
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The lack of talk about the ref must mean he did a pretty good job. I appreciated his calm demeanour and just the way he went about it. TMO seemed intent on getting involved and it appeared the ref was a little annoyed at him. A few calls went our way for sure but overall I felt he was fair and let the game flow.
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@chimoaus said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
The lack of talk about the ref must mean he did a pretty good job. I appreciated his calm demeanour and just the way he went about it. TMO seemed intent on getting involved and it appeared the ref was a little annoyed at him. A few calls went our way for sure but overall I felt he was fair and let the game flow.
We only blame ref when games are close or we lose. It's just the way.
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@antipodean said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@mrdenmore said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
I thought the ALB-Rieko centres combination looked infinitely better than Havili-ALB. In fact, I wonder when they are going to give up on the inside centre experiment with Havili, whose lack of directness offers no threat and disrupts the entire backline. I can see he was an acceptable stopgap but they really need to develop Tupea.
Havili seems to be going backwards in form. That of course has the caveat that he looked his best playing Tonga, Fiji and the Wallabies.
Caveat might also include that he was playing outside Aaron Smith in those games, which probably bought him a fraction more time and space.
He's received both ball and man together a fair bit this season and that's a problem if you're not a big munter (not that easy even if you are).
If Tupaea does well vs Italy it might be worth giving him a run against France and put Dave on the bench.
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@broughie said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@machpants Had to reread your post. The “get it” at first glance appeared snarky like do you understand? In light of the rules would have understood a YC but the ref should have discretion which he seemed to take advantage of. He made reference to AB defensive coverage ruling out a definite welsh try.
Yeah wasn't being snarky, sorry. My point is it didn't have to be a penalty try to be a yellow. We've seen plenty of intercept fails that resulted in yellow only. It's a massive risk for the players to go for it
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@machpants said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@taniwharugby said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
While it appears they like DH at 12, you'd think from today, Tupaea was really the only one whos stocks rose considerably, and should be pressing to start ahead of DH, below is what I'd pick.
Moody, Taylor, Ofa
Brodie, Whitelock
Ioane, Jacobson, Savea
Weber, BB
DH, ALB
Ioane, Jordie, ReeceTaukei'aho, Laulala, Tu'unukuafi, Barrett, Blackadder, Christie, Mounga, Jordan
I can't see Beaudy starting, maybe this one but not the big games. He's just not been upto standard
BB Looked good to me
