Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour
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Guessing they may be looking to see if starting calms TJP and lets him play to his strengths, rather than getting excited watching on the side-lines and trying too hard to "add impact".
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@antipodean said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
Guessing they may be looking to see if starting calms TJP and lets him play to his strengths, rather than getting excited watching on the side-lines and trying too hard to "add impact".
Oh fuck, I missed that TJP was starting. Um, I'd like to change my calm post above to one of hysterics and fear please.
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@antipodean said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
Guessing they may be looking to see if starting calms TJP and lets him play to his strengths, rather than getting excited watching on the side-lines and trying too hard to "add impact".
Partnership with BB swung it according to Fozzie.
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Happy with Beauden starting and Mo'unga on the bench, but they need to give Mo'unga at least 20 minutes to make an impact. He's lethal in open play, but needs some time to get the opportunities to exploit.
Samisoni and Akira could also provide a real point of difference at the end of the game as well.
@antipodean I think you are right, they are hoping TJP will play a more settled game starting rather than trying to come on from the bench and try to make things happen to have an "impact". Also Weber coming on in the final 20 to speed the game up at that point could work well.
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@pakman said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@antipodean said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
Guessing they may be looking to see if starting calms TJP and lets him play to his strengths, rather than getting excited watching on the side-lines and trying too hard to "add impact".
Partnership with BB swung it according to Fozzie.
BB knows to be ready for a catch somewhere between ankles and overhead. RM expects the ball from knees to face.
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@crucial said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@pakman said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@antipodean said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
Guessing they may be looking to see if starting calms TJP and lets him play to his strengths, rather than getting excited watching on the side-lines and trying too hard to "add impact".
Partnership with BB swung it according to Fozzie.
BB knows to be ready for a catch somewhere between ankles and overhead. RM expects the ball from knees to face.
RM plays with Bryn Hall often so not sure if that statement rings that true.
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Don't mind this starting lineup minus TJP.
Front row will hopefully show up a little, Laualala in particular needs a big game.
I like the midfield pairing, though I think things are heating up in the 12 race between Havili and Tupaea so I'm a little gutted to not see Tupaea at least on the bench.
Crazy to think the Beauden is playing his 100th.
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@act-crusader said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
Man he’s provided some highlights over his AB career. Is he a 10, is he a 15, who cares really, I’ve just enjoyed watching him out on the park
a fantastic rugby player. Pace, good vision for a half opportunity, and a willingness to chance his arm.
His highlight reel would be pretty fucking sweet.
100 for the ABs is really quite something considering how hard we have been on selection.
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@sparky said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
Happy in the main with that team. Hats off for BB for making 100 tests.
Disappointing that we are not starting Akira. We need to trust the power. I continue to be disappointed that we are not selecting younger Half Backs ahead of TJP.
Akira's stock went down a bit vs Blackadder's against the Boks.
Foster is rewarding performance and rightly so.
Still hoping can go beast mode against very physical teams.
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@pakman said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
Partnership with BB swung it according to Fozzie.
As long as Beauden does more when he gets the ball from TJP than just passing to a static Havili.
An open roof and the expected rain will mean more kicking from both TJP and BB.
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@bovidae said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@pakman said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
Partnership with BB swung it according to Fozzie.
As long as Beauden does more when he gets the ball from TJP than just passing to a static Havili.
Hopefully Havili has been practising timing his runs...
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my only real quibble is with the loose trio. All pretty handy footballers, but we've picked the same guy 3 times. For all the talk of developing "power" we are still all-in on "workrate" it seems
Ardie Savea is the most kissed-on-the-dick player in NZ. Very handy 7 if a bit light in the tackle. Ordinary 8. I give far less care to the "post contact metres" as they very rarely result in quick ball.
Sort of the state of the entire side really, a bunch of pretty handy players who are all sort of the same, and at the same level. Few standouts, few variations available. Need to find a plan that makes best use.
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@mariner4life said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
Sort of the state of the entire side really, a bunch of pretty handy players who are all sort of the same, and at the same level. Few standouts, few variations available. Need to find a plan that makes best use.
Yeah, we have a lot of midfielders who are good at Super Rugby level, but are mediocre athletes at test level. Would be good to see Lienert-Brown develop the ability to be able to take at least one outside break per season.
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@tim said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@mariner4life said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
Sort of the state of the entire side really, a bunch of pretty handy players who are all sort of the same, and at the same level. Few standouts, few variations available. Need to find a plan that makes best use.
Yeah, we have a lot of midfielders who are good at Super Rugby level, but are mediocre athletes at test level. Would be good to see Lienert-Brown develop the ability to be able to take at least one outside break per season.
will they go around you? no
okay so will they go over you? also nobut tidy hands and quick feet...
which, again, would be alright if everyone played straight, but playing outside two 10s whose entire game is crabbing and trying to pick up a runner.... sensational balance.
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@mariner4life Kerevi would shit in to this team.
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@tim said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@mariner4life Kerevi would shit in to this team.
i would cut off 2 fingers of my left hand for him
fuck i would take 2021 Quade too...
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@mariner4life said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
Ardie Savea is the most kissed-on-the-dick player in NZ. Very handy 7 if a bit light in the tackle. Ordinary 8. I give far less care to the "post contact metres" as they very rarely result in quick ball.
especially when often if he busts through 2 or 3 tacklers, and then goes to deck it can isolate him behind them.
In regard to your point re BB and getting a hundy...a decade ago, we had 2 players on 100 tests, now we are about to have 11.
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@mariner4life said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@tim said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@mariner4life said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
Sort of the state of the entire side really, a bunch of pretty handy players who are all sort of the same, and at the same level. Few standouts, few variations available. Need to find a plan that makes best use.
Yeah, we have a lot of midfielders who are good at Super Rugby level, but are mediocre athletes at test level. Would be good to see Lienert-Brown develop the ability to be able to take at least one outside break per season.
will they go around you? no
okay so will they go over you? also nobut tidy hands and quick feet...
which, again, would be alright if everyone played straight, but playing outside two 10s whose entire game is crabbing and trying to pick up a runner.... sensational balance.
...and a 12 that doesn't exactly crab but does drift....
This is why I think that the backline itself functions much straighter with (surprisingly) DMac. I think his passing game from 10 has come on hugely and he looks to feed runners into gaps with well placed passes a lot more. That means the others don't slide to look for gaps as much and end up with 3 guys in a 5 metre outside channel.
