All Blacks vs Springboks I
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@hooroo said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@oompb said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@booboo Springboks must cut out the kicking. All Blacks were there for the taking. Kwagga, Etsebeth and Fat Frans played really well. Hope they learn from this and improve on this performance.
That’s the only reason you stayed in the game. They were just playing force back. They weren’t there to play rugby. It was a disgrace to the game.
Meh, it's legal, is how everyone played not that long ago. So I think it's not great entertainment, but it's still rugby. The shit that really needs stamping on, is the cheating to get rests. Faking injuries is against the laws, and spirit, of the game. It's disgusting and the boks should be ashamed. But after ranting Rassie, I've realised they lying and faking are obviously fine for them. Rugby needs to play stoppage time like in game, if you're down, tough shit play carries on. Give them a few seconds to get playing, otherwise free kick to opposition. If it's a front row and scrum, then they have 30 seconds to either get him up or replace him.
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That was a really tough test match. Probably a harder test match to watch than play in!
It’s disappointing that our standards drop when we come up against such that is in your face with such physicality.
It shows that while we have made progress this year, we shone familiar frailties when faced with a side exerting a physical pressure game on us.
Perhaps the occasion of 100th test got to some players, especially ones who haven’t played the boks before.
You can say it is good that we won when playing poorly but the fact we knew what was coming and we didn’t counter it very well at all, shows that this side still has a way to go to be able to win 3 high pressure knockout games in 3 weeks if we want to regain the RWC.
I believe we will be better next week. The 100th match out of they way, we have experienced the boks and I am sure the debrief will be pretty brutal.
It will be a good test to see if we can learn, adapt and implement how we want to play next week.
Savea showed his inexperience at captaincy today and maybe his unsuitability as well. Turning down easy 3’s in a tight game where our lineout and attack isn’t working as well as it can, is criminal in my view.
Plus he is not asking enough of refs from what I saw. He may be a great leader during the week, which we don’t see but he wasn’t very good on the field today.
If I was George Bridge, I would that my union rep along to it to shield him from the fury that should be coming😀
Good to be renewing hostilities with the boks - i had forgotten how awful they are to play against at times!
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@stargazer Well said. A win against the World Champs without 2 of our best players. Great result.
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@african-monkey said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@stargazer Well said. A win against the World Champs without 2 of our best players. Great result.
I would've said 5 of our best players, Whitelock, Smith, Mounga, Cane, ALB. I would be confident in saying that we're building good depth if this team learns and adjusts for next week.
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@victor-meldrew said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
A poor AB performance but we dogged a win when we really didn't deserve
So SA deserved to win?
Neither team deserved the win, but someone had to, was poor enough from us it won't paper over any cracks either.
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@majorrage said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
Also, when the AB's have the ball in any spot in the opposition 22 .. never blow your whistle to go back for the penalty. Ever. Thats when holes exist which we want to take advantage. Sorry mate, you looked out of your depth with a complete lack of feel for the game.
Ha, I thought the exact thing st the time, most regs in the 22 or just outside just keep going until the other team infringes again or a try is scored, not this guy...lack of awareness of how to let a game flow, wanted to be I control, without knowing the boks were controlling the pace of the game.
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
kudos to Blackadder for tackling out wide even in the last key minute, still looks like a 6 to me)
Blackadder is definitely primarily a 6 who can cover 7 and 8. I doubt he'd played any time at 7 for 2-3 years prior to Razor needing to run him there during Super rugby this year.
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I don't think I've felt those emotions since the 2011 final. Hope and anticipation early that descended into frustration fear and a sense we would lose the game. Getting our noses in front late and winning at the end with scarcely a moment to enjoy the victory. I hope that next week closer resembles my emotional ride during the 2015 final....
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
So how can we prepare for next week via selections? Not that many choices. I imaginge Foster would face a bit of pressure if he picks Bridge to start again but he did keep him on the paddock a bit longer than I expected.
He's not my favourite player and he had a shocker especially in the area of expertise in which he was picked.
But I'd kind of back him to sort that and keep him there as the Bok tactics aren't changing.
He should have been dragged last night, not Jordan, but I can see him playing again next week.
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@tim said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
Most disappointing thing for me was our set-piece.
Biggest mistake was not taking penalty goals when on offer, and building score board pressure.
Defence was pretty good.
Idea of going for the try was good then had to be continued as the Boks were under penalty pressure. Pretty sure the idea is to get a try ahead to make them play. They don't change if you are just a penalty ahead as we saw.
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@crucial said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@tim said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
Most disappointing thing for me was our set-piece.
Biggest mistake was not taking penalty goals when on offer, and building score board pressure.
Defence was pretty good.
Idea of going for the try was good then had to be continued as the Boks were under penalty pressure. Pretty sure the idea is to get a try ahead to make them play. They don't change if you are just a penalty ahead as we saw.
But kick our pens and we would have been up 8....
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@stargazer said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
I assume Mo'unga will wear the 22 jersey next week; he only comes out of MIQ on Tuesday. Really a short prep time for a test match, even though his hotel room looks like half a gym on his instagram photos. The question is, who'll lose his spot. Surely not Jordie, so it will be between BB and Dmac.
If RM comes in.
DMac gives us better coverage on the bench than RM.
The latter starts or misses out for me.
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Loved Q's emotion in that final penalty.
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@derpus said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
So here's my 'Dave playing the long game' theory.
Step 1: Rennie kicks off his first year going all out against the ABs to see if he can figure them out. Finishes up with a win in his last game.
Step 2: bait NZ into keeping Foster on until after the next RWC. Two games at Eden Park? no way he's winning the Bledisloe back this year, but he can still come out of the series with a net gain and shackle the ABs with a clearly inept coach.
Step 3: World Champs come to town. Time to pull out the big guns (literally - Kerevi) and see if he can knock off the current world cup holders. Step 3 complete. Twice.
Clearly well on our way to a third RWC title.
You've got dryer powder than us.
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@pukunui said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
Absolutely pathetic performance from the ABs. I honestly can’t remember a worse performance across 80min. So glad we already extended the contract of the coach who got them up for the big occasion.
Hopefully that is George Bridge’s last test. Ben Blair mk2.
He was meant to be the high ball guy. If he can’t do that, what does he do?ABs Very lucky Boks showed no interest in playing rugby. Even doing that they should have won. Those who said they were going to be easy beats are looking pretty stupid right now.
Sorry, must have woken up to a different reality ... Who won?
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@kirwan said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
For all the shit Patrick got this week , he was great today. Very physical
Hear hear
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@chimoaus said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
If we can play that badly and win, I hate to think what would happen if we play well.
Well imagine what a full strength Bok team would do...
