Black Caps - Bangladesh tour 2021
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@jk said in Black Caps vs Bangladesh:
@rapido said in Black Caps vs Bangladesh:
@canefan said in Black Caps vs Bangladesh:
@rapido Too many soft dismissals, they need to bat like a 4 day game or test, or at least apply themselves to that level. Anything around 130 to 150 will be a nightmare on that pitch
true, a nightmare.
110 should win.
100 good chance.
90, a bit of a chance (we'd struggle chasing that, them not so much)
80, better than nothing.
60, no chance.If you look at the Aus series, also played in Dhaka, the winning scores from memory ranged between 100 and 103, with Aus also being bowled out for around 60 in the last game. There were only a couple of players able to notch up a 50 across the 10 innings and a lot of very low scores.
Surely the goal has to be protecting your wicket and just seeing what runs you can get. Surely bat through and you will be close to 100 totalwise
It is, and I think we know this.
This team wasn't like the Australian squad - which was the typical T20 team of everone wanting to be an opener and biff in the power play.
This squad has batting the reflects that it will require some 'proper' batting. Just didn't execute last night, and in this context this is why I was disappointed with Nicholls and McConchie dismissals, even Bracewell.
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@rapido said in Black Caps vs Bangladesh:
@jk said in Black Caps vs Bangladesh:
@rapido said in Black Caps vs Bangladesh:
@canefan said in Black Caps vs Bangladesh:
@rapido Too many soft dismissals, they need to bat like a 4 day game or test, or at least apply themselves to that level. Anything around 130 to 150 will be a nightmare on that pitch
true, a nightmare.
110 should win.
100 good chance.
90, a bit of a chance (we'd struggle chasing that, them not so much)
80, better than nothing.
60, no chance.If you look at the Aus series, also played in Dhaka, the winning scores from memory ranged between 100 and 103, with Aus also being bowled out for around 60 in the last game. There were only a couple of players able to notch up a 50 across the 10 innings and a lot of very low scores.
Surely the goal has to be protecting your wicket and just seeing what runs you can get. Surely bat through and you will be close to 100 totalwise
It is, and I think we know this.
This team wasn't like the Australian squad - which was the typical T20 team of everone wanting to be an opener and biff in the power play.
This squad has batting the reflects that it will require some 'proper' batting. Just didn't execute last night, and in this context this is why I was disappointed with Nicholls and McConchie dismissals, even Bracewell.
His reputation as an all rounder supersedes his ability as an all rounder.
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@rapido 100% agree with this. From the squad selection, it looks like Worker wasn't even considered, yet he was one of the top batters in the Super Smash and his part time spin bowling would probably be more useful than one of the 7 fast-medium bowlers.
Allen can't play so instead of bringing over another batter, they bring the exact opposite of what you need in Bangladesh, another fast-medium bowler.
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@labcat said in Black Caps vs Bangladesh:
@rapido 100% agree with this. From the squad selection, it looks like Worker wasn't even considered, yet he was one of the top batters in the Super Smash and his part time spin bowling would probably be more useful than one of the 7 fast-medium bowlers.
Allen can't play so instead of bringing over another batter, they bring the exact opposite of what you need in Bangladesh, another fast-medium bowler.
( pops on grumpy old man hat, adjusts it and begins typing )
Does anyone really give two fucks how we go over there in this form of the game ? As a fan I’m sick of year upon year of us being plucky competitors in the short form(s) but then getting fucked up by embarrassing margins in the five day version. Let’s get all high and mighty and point out to arrogant aussies, pompous poms and the offensive bobs and vagene crew that we’re NUMBER ONE in the form of the game that is the real yardstick.
Fuck the others formats, mainly this one.
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Finn Allen is back with the squad. Get him straight back into the batting lineup instead of one of the quicks. I see from Google that he can even bowl occasional right arm
piesoff spin, which will probably be more effective than the pacemen on Bangladeshi pitches anyway.
Blackcaps v Bangladesh: Swashbuckling batsman Finn Allen out of COVID-19 isolation, rejoins teammates | Newshub
The international rookie tested positive for the coronavirus on arrival in Bangladesh.
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@donsteppa said in Black Caps vs Bangladesh:
Finn Allen is back with the squad. Get him straight back into the batting lineup instead of one of the quicks. I see from Google that he can even bowl occasional right arm
piesoff spin, which will probably be more effective than the pacemen on Bangladeshi pitches anyway.
Blackcaps v Bangladesh: Swashbuckling batsman Finn Allen out of COVID-19 isolation, rejoins teammates | Newshub
The international rookie tested positive for the coronavirus on arrival in Bangladesh.
Righto, one wicket in all formats, ever. Still Doug Bracewell is an all rounder despite never getting a 50 so anything is possible I guess.
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@mn5 said in Black Caps vs Bangladesh:
@donsteppa said in Black Caps vs Bangladesh:
Finn Allen is back with the squad. Get him straight back into the batting lineup instead of one of the quicks. I see from Google that he can even bowl occasional right arm
piesoff spin, which will probably be more effective than the pacemen on Bangladeshi pitches anyway.
Blackcaps v Bangladesh: Swashbuckling batsman Finn Allen out of COVID-19 isolation, rejoins teammates | Newshub
The international rookie tested positive for the coronavirus on arrival in Bangladesh.
Righto, one wicket in all formats, ever. Still Doug Bracewell is an all rounder despite never getting a 50 so anything is possible I guess.
In all seriousness I wondered last night whether any of the quicks might try a Colin Miller, given the match situation. One of those pitches where 'the slower the better'.
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@labcat said in Black Caps vs Bangladesh:
@rapido 100% agree with this. From the squad selection, it looks like Worker wasn't even considered, yet he was one of the top batters in the Super Smash and his part time spin bowling would probably be more useful than one of the 7 fast-medium bowlers.
Allen can't play so instead of bringing over another batter, they bring the exact opposite of what you need in Bangladesh, another fast-medium bowler.
I thought they couldn't bring Worker because they didn't have an MIQ spot for him? We know this isn't the ideal squad but you are restricted with what you can do in the time of COVID. Ravindra is there doing the worker role.
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@nzzp said in Black Caps vs Bangladesh:
@canefan said in Black Caps vs Bangladesh:
After g1 why are we bowling medium pacers?
our spinners are back in NZ? You wonder though
Don't know why Ish and the white dude aren't there
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@canefan said in Black Caps vs Bangladesh:
@nzzp said in Black Caps vs Bangladesh:
@canefan said in Black Caps vs Bangladesh:
After g1 why are we bowling medium pacers?
our spinners are back in NZ? You wonder though
Don't know why Ish and the white dude aren't there
NZC has a rule that you can't do three overseas tours in a row. They will be going to WC and on the India tour so have to skip Bangladesh and Pakistan.
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@canefan said in Black Caps vs Bangladesh:
@labcat said in Black Caps vs Bangladesh:
It makes zero sense that Sommerville is not there though, even Rippon was probably worth taking over one the 6/7 seamers.
Somerville was who I was thinking of
Ah, I thought you mean Santner.
