Foster, Robertson, Rennie etc
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@gt12 said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:
Fair, except when the Cartel knew they were getting it wrong in the forwards and at line out time, they were really clear about it. I appreciated the way they responded to negative feedback by taking it onboard and showing that they would respond (and they did).
The Cartel wasn't perfect, the avoidance of lineouts against the Boks in 2009 drove me up the friggen wall, but you saw visible improvements after each loss or change over a time in reaction to issues.
FFS, we are still struggling with things that came up in 2016/2017. 2020 was a nightmare, the same old problems occur in 2021, good players have suddenly become average or even shite...... something isn't right in dodge! -
@mariner4life said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:
Our attack is utter rubbish. Attack coach can go
Our breakdown work is substandard. Our forwards "positioning" is not useful. Our set piece creaks. The forwards coach can go
Our defense is alright, but i am seeing good players make bad decisions so something is not working. The defense coach can go.
Our skills have regressed, significantly. our passing was once a strength is no longer class leading. We kick very poorly. We knock on a lot. Skills coach can go.
Aura is weak, the Motivation coach can go.
Advertising and promotion is shoddy, the Marketing Manager can go.
I’ve heard the post game food is rubbish, the Caterer can go too.
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@act-crusader said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:
@mariner4life said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:
Our attack is utter rubbish. Attack coach can go
Our breakdown work is substandard. Our forwards "positioning" is not useful. Our set piece creaks. The forwards coach can go
Our defense is alright, but i am seeing good players make bad decisions so something is not working. The defense coach can go.
Our skills have regressed, significantly. our passing was once a strength is no longer class leading. We kick very poorly. We knock on a lot. Skills coach can go.
Aura is weak, the Motivation coach can go.
Advertising and promotion is shoddy, the Marketing Manager can go.
I’ve heard the post game food is rubbish, the Caterer can go too.
really? Food poisoning seems to be at historic lows...
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I really shouldn't read or watch about foster, it just makes me angry
From the breakdown "“You've got to go through some of these lessons sometimes as an All Black team,” he said. “It’s not like this is a fully established [team] with experience right across the board."
Fuck sake, look at the ages and experience of the French versus the ABs, our team is fucking old with heaps of caps and 30+ years. A lot of the French are under 25
Accountable my arse, he's responsible but won't be held to account
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@machpants calm down, richies only had 33 tests...hes still learning.....
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@kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:
@machpants calm down, richies only had 33 tests...hes still learning.....
And TJP?
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@machpants said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:
@kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:
@machpants calm down, richies only had 33 tests...hes still learning.....
And TJP?
78...but a rookie...everyone know sir richie was only good for the last 20 odd tests of his 148....
edit: please tell you now im joking, people with even +20 tests should have more composure
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@kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:
@machpants calm down, richies only had 33 tests...hes still learning.....
way to calm him down, not!
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@kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:
@machpants calm down, richies only had 33 tests...hes still learning.....
Some very good past ABs would call that a career!
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@canefan thats what i was getting at but the sarcasm seems to have been too subtle
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@antipodean said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:
I've no idea what parts of the game we've made significant growth in. Admittedly I'm not a sought after international coach with an impeccable pedigree, but from my ignorant perspective nothing has improved.
Losses as a percentage of annual Tests?
Average margin versus Wallabies?
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Foster seems to be seeing a different game to the one the average punter is. He is seeing certain growth, we are seeing stagnation. He is seeing small margins where the game could of been won, we are seeing a team thoroughly beaten. He is seeing player development, we are seeing good players turning to shite, etc. We aren't seeing any innovation, a gameplan or anything much else, just the same old thing for the last 2 years.
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To be fair, from our 2nd try right up until the intercept i thought we would win on Sunday.
The week before we were a couple of degrees on a forward pass from winning.
Our loss to SA was a very late penalty (so was our win to be fair)
so for all our wailing and gnashing of teeth, and issues we can all see, a couple of better moments from players and we are unbeaten all year.
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@mariner4life said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:
To be fair, from our 2nd try right up until the intercept i thought we would win on Sunday.
The week before we were a couple of degrees on a forward pass from winning.
Our loss to SA was a very late penalty (so was our win to be fair)
so for all our wailing and gnashing of teeth, and issues we can all see, a couple of better moments from players and we are unbeaten all year.
Thanks Ian.
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@crucial said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:
@mariner4life said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:
To be fair, from our 2nd try right up until the intercept i thought we would win on Sunday.
The week before we were a couple of degrees on a forward pass from winning.
Our loss to SA was a very late penalty (so was our win to be fair)
so for all our wailing and gnashing of teeth, and issues we can all see, a couple of better moments from players and we are unbeaten all year.
Thanks Ian.
nah, he has a point. Despite us being pants, we could have burgled a few wins from the losses. It wouldn't represent the game, but it would be a great escape. Kinda like England 2019 -- we weren't in that game, but had a chance to actually snatch it.
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@nzzp would that be enough though?
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@kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:
@nzzp would that be enough though?
what? winning? holy shit maybe it right what everyone says about us
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@mariner4life said in Foster, Robertson, Other Options etc:
To be fair, from our 2nd try right up until the intercept i thought we would win on Sunday.
24-6 down at halftime is the issue. It's all well and good talking about the 3rd quarter fightback but 24-6 down at halftime is unacceptable and ultimately costs you the match as the opposition are going to get momentum in the second half and by being 24-6 down you are leaving no room for error and no able to apply scoreboard pressure as were so far back were never able to get in front.
There's been a lot of chat about the intercept and the Mounga missed tackle but how about the shitshow that was the first 40?
