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    @chris-b said in Discussion of AB 9s. Best ever All Blacks Half Back?:

    @act-crusader said in Discussion of AB 9s. Best ever All Blacks Half Back?:

    QUIZ ALERT

    In the last 500 players selected for the All Blacks (ie players #698 to #1198), how many halfbacks have there been?

    Mathematically, there probably should have been 35-40 - but, due to Smith and Marshall's long tenures especially, I'm going to say less than that. 30.

    I wonder how many years that is? More games in recent years should mean more new ABs

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    @canefan Proportionaly you should be able to divide 500 by 15 or 23/2 - or most likely something in between.

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    @chris-b said in Discussion of AB 9s. Best ever All Blacks Half Back?:

    @canefan Proportionaly you should be able to divide 500 by 15 or 2/23 - or most likely something in between.

    Shit I didn't compute that

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    @chris-b said in Discussion of AB 9s. Best ever All Blacks Half Back?:

    @act-crusader said in Discussion of AB 9s. Best ever All Blacks Half Back?:

    QUIZ ALERT

    In the last 500 players selected for the All Blacks (ie players #698 to #1198), how many halfbacks have there been?

    Mathematically, there probably should have been 35-40 - but, due to Smith and Marshall's long tenures especially, I'm going to say less than that. 30.

    Closer on your first assumption. It’s 38.

    I thought low 30s before doing the research, given this dates back to selections first made in the early 70s when there were tour games and starting XVs that played 80 minutes.

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    QUIZ ALERT #2

    Name the 38 halfbacks? If you can pick where they are in the order then an extra virtual chocolate fish for you.

    I’ll get things started with a couple of hints:

    1 - Finlay Christie
    18 - Byron Kelleher
    29 - David Kirk

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    @act-crusader Given how vocal and annoying some halfbacks can be, I thought that the correct answer was "too many".

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    @bovidae said in Discussion of AB 9s. Best ever All Blacks Half Back?:

    @act-crusader Given how vocal and annoying some halfbacks can be, I thought that the correct answer was "too many".

    As a former halfback that was quietly spoken, respectful to the ref and opponent, I do not know what you are talking about.

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    @act-crusader said in Discussion of AB 9s. Best ever All Blacks Half Back?:

    @bovidae said in Discussion of AB 9s. Best ever All Blacks Half Back?:

    @act-crusader Given how vocal and annoying some halfbacks can be, I thought that the correct answer was "too many".

    As a former halfback that was quietly spoken, respectful to the ref and opponent, I do not know what you are talking about.

    gentleman, i present to you, a unicorn

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    @act-crusader said in Discussion of AB 9s. Best ever All Blacks Half Back?:

    QUIZ ALERT #2

    Name the 38 halfbacks? If you can pick where they are in the order then an extra virtual chocolate fish for you.

    I’ll get things started with a couple of hints:

    1 - Finlay Christie
    18 - Byron Kelleher
    29 - David Kirk

    fuck off

    i just googled when #698 got capped. And the player i thought was 501 was actually 1001. There were 80-odd before i was even born. And 250-odd before i can even remember watching rugby

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    @act-crusader said in Discussion of AB 9s. Best ever All Blacks Half Back?:

    QUIZ ALERT #2

    Name the 38 halfbacks? If you can pick where they are in the order then an extra virtual chocolate fish for you.

    I’ll get things started with a couple of hints:

    1 - Finlay Christie

    I'm thinking that Tahuriorangi was before him and Drummond and Weber before that.

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    @bovidae said in Discussion of AB 9s. Best ever All Blacks Half Back?:

    @act-crusader said in Discussion of AB 9s. Best ever All Blacks Half Back?:

    QUIZ ALERT #2

    Name the 38 halfbacks? If you can pick where they are in the order then an extra virtual chocolate fish for you.

    I’ll get things started with a couple of hints:

    1 - Finlay Christie

    I'm thinking that Tahuriorangi was before him and Drummond and Weber before that.

    In order of last picked first, Christie is number 1

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    @act-crusader said in Discussion of AB 9s. Best ever All Blacks Half Back?:

    @bovidae said in Discussion of AB 9s. Best ever All Blacks Half Back?:

    @act-crusader said in Discussion of AB 9s. Best ever All Blacks Half Back?:

    QUIZ ALERT #2

    Name the 38 halfbacks? If you can pick where they are in the order then an extra virtual chocolate fish for you.

    I’ll get things started with a couple of hints:

    1 - Finlay Christie

    I'm thinking that Tahuriorangi was before him and Drummond and Weber before that.

    In order of last picked first, Christie is number 1

    That is what I am meaning going from most recent to the next most recent, etc.

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    @bovidae correct

    1 - Finlay Christie
    2 - Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi
    3 - Mitchell Drummond
    4 - Brad Weber

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    @act-crusader Bruce Deans, Steve Scott, Justin Marshall, Andy Ellis, Jon Preston, Lyn Davis, Mitch Drummond.

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    @nepia said in Discussion of AB 9s. Best ever All Blacks Half Back?:

    @chris-b Now Kahn did reach peak performance when he moved to the Magpies, however he was already playing for Samoa by then so can’t really be included in the best AB 9 discussion.

    He's in the coulda, woulda, shoulda discussion - a bit like Robbie and Alan Hewson.

    Injustices that are not forgotten. 🙂

    (Actually, Kahn's AB prospects were largely farked by Robbie preferring Andy Ellis - something I agreed with at the time).

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    @chris-b said in Discussion of AB 9s. Best ever All Blacks Half Back?:

    @act-crusader Bruce Deans, Steve Scott, Justin Marshall, Andy Ellis, Jon Preston, Lyn Davis, Mitch Drummond.

    Only have to find 8 more and it’s a quality XV of halfbacks 😉

    3 - Mitch Drummond
    11 - Andy Ellis
    21 - Justin Marshall
    24 - Jon Preston
    26 - Bruce Deans
    31 - Steve Scott
    35 - Lyn Davis

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    @act-crusader said in Discussion of AB 9s. Best ever All Blacks Half Back?:

    1 - Finlay Christie
    2 - Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi
    3 - Mitchell Drummond
    4 - Brad Weber

    Pulu

    I'll leave the rest. 🙂

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    @bovidae said in Discussion of AB 9s. Best ever All Blacks Half Back?:

    @act-crusader said in Discussion of AB 9s. Best ever All Blacks Half Back?:

    1 - Finlay Christie
    2 - Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi
    3 - Mitchell Drummond
    4 - Brad Weber

    Pulu

    I'll leave the rest. 🙂

    5 - Augustine Pulu

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    @act-crusader said in Discussion of AB 9s. Best ever All Blacks Half Back?:

    1 - Finlay Christie
    2 - Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi
    3 - Mitchell Drummond
    4 - Brad Weber
    5 - Augustine Pulu
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    11 - Andy Ellis
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    18 - Byron Kelleher
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    21 - Justin Marshall
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    24 - Jon Preston
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    29 - David Kirk
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    35 - Lyn Davis
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    Throwing a few more names at you between Marshall & Kirk
    S Forster
    A Strachan
    J Hewett
    P McGahan (tour games only in France 1990, I think?)
    G Bachop (debuted on the 1987 Japan tour?)
    Dean Kenny

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    Between Kelleher and Marshall:

    • O (J) Tonu'u
      R Duggan (maybe 17?)
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