Too many events at the Olympics?
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@nta said in Olympics Thread:
100m running backwards event?
100m pole vault?
100m triple jump?
fuck's sake...
Ok how about the hurdles pelican?
Where do swimmers have to clear objects?
Since it needs to be spelt out: There aren't events in athletics for doing the same thing but slower, like running backwards, or skipping over the same distance.
Keep in mind I'd immediately get rid of a bunch of shit out of the Olympics. Swimming is just a high profile (in Oz) and obvious example.
I might add this is why I don't consider Phelps to be great.
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@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
Triple jump isn't a race, but happy to lose that too.
Long jump is fine - biggest number gets the gong. Triple jump is like long jump with autism.
There are no running events at the same distances with 4 different methods of "running". Hurdles is a different kind of athleticism and I can accept that as a sport.
Similarly, swimming should just be fastest over distance.
"Oh I think I'll porpoise my way up the pool while waving my arms in a retarded fashion and we'll make a medal for that in at least three different events"
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@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@nta said in Olympics Thread:
100m running backwards event?
100m pole vault?
100m triple jump?
fuck's sake...
Ok how about the hurdles pelican?
Where do swimmers have to clear objects?
Since it needs to be spelt out: There aren't events in athletics for doing the same thing but slower, like running backwards, or skipping over the same distance.
Keep in mind I'd immediately get rid of a bunch of shit out of the Olympics. Swimming is just a high profile (in Oz) and obvious example.
I might add this is why I don't consider Phelps to be great.
Hurdles literally make you run slower. If it’s all about getting from A to B fastest then why hurdles? And hello walking? At the end of the day swimming and running are completely different things and comparisons are dumb. Running backwards is nothing like butterfly or breastroke vs freestyle. But again I agree that there are too many events.
Yeah you’ve mentioned the Phelps thing before and it doesn’t help your argument. Another ridiculously stupid statement.
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Here's an example:
Track events:
100m (Men/Women)
200m (Men/Women)
400m (Men/Women)
800m (Men/Women)
1,500m (Men/Women)
5,000m (Men/Women)
10,000m (Men/Women)
110m Hurdles (Men)
100m Hurdles (Women)
400m Hurdles (Men/Women)
3,000m Steeplechase (Men/Women)
4 x 100m Relay (Men/Women)
4 x 400m Relay (Men/Women)
4 x 400m Mixed RelayRoad events:
20km Race Walk (Men/Women)
Marathon (Men/Women)
50km Race Walk (Men)Also
Decathlon (Men)
Heptathlon (Women) -
@nta said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
Triple jump isn't a race, but happy to lose that too.
Long jump is fine - biggest number gets the gong. Triple jump is like long jump with autism.
There are no running events at the same distances with 4 different methods of "running". Hurdles is a different kind of athleticism and I can accept that as a sport.
Similarly, swimming should just be fastest over distance.
"Oh I think I'll porpoise my way up the pool while waving my arms in a retarded fashion and we'll make a medal for that in at least three different events"
Hurdles is a different type of athleticism 🤣. What do you think the different strokes entail you pelican?
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
Yeah you’ve mentioned the Phelps thing before and it doesn’t help your argument. Another ridiculously stupid statement.
As I said last year: Phelps has won a single Olympic gold medal where he alone was the fastest over a distance: 200m freestyle. Paavo Nurmi and Carl Lewis are better Olympians.
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@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
Yeah you’ve mentioned the Phelps thing before and it doesn’t help your argument. Another ridiculously stupid statement.
As I said last year: Phelps has won a single Olympic gold medal where he alone was the fastest over a distance: 200m freestyle. Paavo Nurmi and Carl Lewis are better Olympians.
If I recall correctly you also said that Bradbury’s achievement was greater than anything Phelps ever did. That’s easily the stupidest thing I’ve ever seen on TSF, although the argument that butterfly is equivalent to jogging comes close.
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
Running backwards is nothing like butterfly or breastroke vs freestyle.
Backstroke. I was talking about backstroke.
Sorry, I know you're a Queenslander and that may have been a bit too subtle for you.
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
Yeah you’ve mentioned the Phelps thing before and it doesn’t help your argument. Another ridiculously stupid statement.
As I said last year: Phelps has won a single Olympic gold medal where he alone was the fastest over a distance: 200m freestyle. Paavo Nurmi and Carl Lewis are better Olympians.
If I recall correctly you also said that Bradbury’s achievement was greater than anything Phelps ever did. That’s easily the stupidest thing I’ve ever seen on TSF, although the argument that butterfly is equivalent to jogging comes close.
You didn't lose your lollies as much as I expected to that bait. Which surprised me. Butterfly is slower than freestyle over the same distance. So is jogging, Any other analogies I can assist you with?
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@nta said in Olympics Thread:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
Running backwards is nothing like butterfly or breastroke vs freestyle.
Backstroke. I was talking about backstroke.
Sorry, I know you're a Queenslander and that may have been a bit too subtle for you.
Even backstroke is nothing like running backwards. But I wouldn’t expect you to understand that because apparently anything other than freestyle is jogging.
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@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
Yeah you’ve mentioned the Phelps thing before and it doesn’t help your argument. Another ridiculously stupid statement.
As I said last year: Phelps has won a single Olympic gold medal where he alone was the fastest over a distance: 200m freestyle. Paavo Nurmi and Carl Lewis are better Olympians.
If I recall correctly you also said that Bradbury’s achievement was greater than anything Phelps ever did. That’s easily the stupidest thing I’ve ever seen on TSF, although the argument that butterfly is equivalent to jogging comes close.
You didn't lose your lollies as much as I expected to that bait. Which surprised me. Butterfly is slower than freestyle over the same distance. So is jogging, Any other analogies I can assist you with?
This has to be a windup. You cant be that stupid.
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
Yeah you’ve mentioned the Phelps thing before and it doesn’t help your argument. Another ridiculously stupid statement.
As I said last year: Phelps has won a single Olympic gold medal where he alone was the fastest over a distance: 200m freestyle. Paavo Nurmi and Carl Lewis are better Olympians.
If I recall correctly you also said that Bradbury’s achievement was greater than anything Phelps ever did. That’s easily the stupidest thing I’ve ever seen on TSF, although the argument that butterfly is equivalent to jogging comes close.
You didn't lose your lollies as much as I expected to that bait. Which surprised me. Butterfly is slower than freestyle over the same distance. So is jogging, Any other analogies I can assist you with?
This has to be a windup. You cant be that stupid.
Great rebuttal.
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@nta said in Olympics Thread:
"Oh I think I'll porpoise my way up the pool while waving my arms in a retarded fashion and we'll make a medal for that in at least three different events"
Don't forget about the infamous pyjama race that was common in school swimming championships back in my day. It definitely had only the one distance and you were able to use any stroke you chose.
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@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
Yeah you’ve mentioned the Phelps thing before and it doesn’t help your argument. Another ridiculously stupid statement.
As I said last year: Phelps has won a single Olympic gold medal where he alone was the fastest over a distance: 200m freestyle. Paavo Nurmi and Carl Lewis are better Olympians.
If I recall correctly you also said that Bradbury’s achievement was greater than anything Phelps ever did. That’s easily the stupidest thing I’ve ever seen on TSF, although the argument that butterfly is equivalent to jogging comes close.
You didn't lose your lollies as much as I expected to that bait. Which surprised me. Butterfly is slower than freestyle over the same distance. So is jogging, Any other analogies I can assist you with?
This has to be a windup. You cant be that stupid.
Great rebuttal.
We're done here.Ok I’ll bite. Bear crawls, hopping on one leg and skipping are slower than running. Ergo they must be jogging right? What awesome logic.
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
Yeah you’ve mentioned the Phelps thing before and it doesn’t help your argument. Another ridiculously stupid statement.
As I said last year: Phelps has won a single Olympic gold medal where he alone was the fastest over a distance: 200m freestyle. Paavo Nurmi and Carl Lewis are better Olympians.
If I recall correctly you also said that Bradbury’s achievement was greater than anything Phelps ever did. That’s easily the stupidest thing I’ve ever seen on TSF, although the argument that butterfly is equivalent to jogging comes close.
You didn't lose your lollies as much as I expected to that bait. Which surprised me. Butterfly is slower than freestyle over the same distance. So is jogging, Any other analogies I can assist you with?
This has to be a windup. You cant be that stupid.
Great rebuttal.
We're done here.Ok I’ll bite. Bear crawls, hopping on one leg and skipping are slower than running. Ergo they must be jogging right? What awesome logic.
You should probably stop posting if that's your grasp of the topic.
To make this easier for you: Jogging is slower than sprinting. So too is walking. That doesn't mean walking and jogging are the same thing.
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@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
Yeah you’ve mentioned the Phelps thing before and it doesn’t help your argument. Another ridiculously stupid statement.
As I said last year: Phelps has won a single Olympic gold medal where he alone was the fastest over a distance: 200m freestyle. Paavo Nurmi and Carl Lewis are better Olympians.
If I recall correctly you also said that Bradbury’s achievement was greater than anything Phelps ever did. That’s easily the stupidest thing I’ve ever seen on TSF, although the argument that butterfly is equivalent to jogging comes close.
You didn't lose your lollies as much as I expected to that bait. Which surprised me. Butterfly is slower than freestyle over the same distance. So is jogging, Any other analogies I can assist you with?
This has to be a windup. You cant be that stupid.
Great rebuttal.
We're done here.Ok I’ll bite. Bear crawls, hopping on one leg and skipping are slower than running. Ergo they must be jogging right? What awesome logic.
You should probably stop posting if that's your grasp of the topic.
To make this easier for you: Jogging is slower than sprinting. So too is walking. That doesn't mean walking and jogging are the same thing.
That’s exactly what I’m saying. Now apply that to swimming. It’s really not so hard. You can do it.
I’ll make it even easier for you. Butterfly is slower than freestyle. Why? Because it’s a completely different farking stroke. Not because it’s just a slower freestyle. Comparing it to jogging is absolutely absurd.
At the end of the day, I totally get the annoyance at the number of swimming events. The mixed thing today was a pisstake. What annoys me though is ignorant and stupid comments about the different disciplines. You also can’t compare swimming to running.
I suppose we could even apply the “fastest and best” rule to rowing. Why have the different boats and not have only the very fastest ones?
For the record I probably agree with a lot of your culls but I think Decathlon should stay. The ultimate Allrounders and imho doesn’t get the attention it deserves. Although I also get the “jack of all trades master of none” argument as well.
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@higgins said in Olympics Thread:
@gt12 said in Olympics Thread:
There are way too many swimming events, now we have mixed relays? FFS.
Next up will be mixed coxless rowing, Laurel Hubbard will be the first to put her hand up for that. Come to think of it when will someone invent synchronized rowing as a separate sport!???????
Strictly speaking rowing teams already need to synchronise ...
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@booboo OK unsynchorised rowing then when you can only stroke on separate sides of the boat each time an oar is used. Might end up a bit like a demolition derby when it comes to trying to keep the boat travelling in a straight line which should be exciting for the crowd!
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
Yeah you’ve mentioned the Phelps thing before and it doesn’t help your argument. Another ridiculously stupid statement.
As I said last year: Phelps has won a single Olympic gold medal where he alone was the fastest over a distance: 200m freestyle. Paavo Nurmi and Carl Lewis are better Olympians.
If I recall correctly you also said that Bradbury’s achievement was greater than anything Phelps ever did. That’s easily the stupidest thing I’ve ever seen on TSF, although the argument that butterfly is equivalent to jogging comes close.
You didn't lose your lollies as much as I expected to that bait. Which surprised me. Butterfly is slower than freestyle over the same distance. So is jogging, Any other analogies I can assist you with?
This has to be a windup. You cant be that stupid.
Great rebuttal.
We're done here.Ok I’ll bite. Bear crawls, hopping on one leg and skipping are slower than running. Ergo they must be jogging right? What awesome logic.
You should probably stop posting if that's your grasp of the topic.
To make this easier for you: Jogging is slower than sprinting. So too is walking. That doesn't mean walking and jogging are the same thing.
That’s exactly what I’m saying. Now apply that to swimming. It’s really not so hard. You can do it.
I’ll make it even easier for you. Butterfly is slower than freestyle. Why? Because it’s a completely different farking stroke. Not because it’s just a slower freestyle. Comparing it to jogging is absolutely absurd.
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
Yeah you’ve mentioned the Phelps thing before and it doesn’t help your argument. Another ridiculously stupid statement.
As I said last year: Phelps has won a single Olympic gold medal where he alone was the fastest over a distance: 200m freestyle. Paavo Nurmi and Carl Lewis are better Olympians.
If I recall correctly you also said that Bradbury’s achievement was greater than anything Phelps ever did. That’s easily the stupidest thing I’ve ever seen on TSF, although the argument that butterfly is equivalent to jogging comes close.
You didn't lose your lollies as much as I expected to that bait. Which surprised me. Butterfly is slower than freestyle over the same distance. So is jogging, Any other analogies I can assist you with?
This has to be a windup. You cant be that stupid.
Great rebuttal.
We're done here.Ok I’ll bite. Bear crawls, hopping on one leg and skipping are slower than running. Ergo they must be jogging right? What awesome logic.
You should probably stop posting if that's your grasp of the topic.
To make this easier for you: Jogging is slower than sprinting. So too is walking. That doesn't mean walking and jogging are the same thing.
That’s exactly what I’m saying. Now apply that to swimming. It’s really not so hard. You can do it.
I’ll make it even easier for you. Butterfly is slower than freestyle. Why? Because it’s a completely different farking stroke. Not because it’s just a slower freestyle. Comparing it to jogging is absolutely absurd.
At the end of the day, I totally get the annoyance at the number of swimming events. The mixed thing today was a pisstake. What annoys me though is ignorant and stupid comments about the different disciplines. You also can’t compare swimming to running.
I suppose we could even apply the “fastest and best” rule to rowing. Why have the different boats and not have only the very fastest ones?
For the record I probably agree with a lot of your culls but I think Decathlon should stay. The ultimate Allrounders and imho doesn’t get the attention it deserves. Although I also get the “jack of all trades master of none” argument as well.
To me the biggest problem people have with swimming isn’t the different strokes it is the similarities of skills meaning that a very good swimmer gets multiple medal chances.
At least with running the events are very different based on distance. Good sprinters in strong countries get multiple chances sure but generally the distances are spread far enough that you specialise.
There appears stuff all difference to a good swimmer between 100 and 200 in various strokes.
