Springboks v British & Irish Lions II
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@gibbonrib said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions II:
@majorrage said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions II:
@bones said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions II:
@majorrage said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions II:
@bones said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions II:
@majorrage said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions II:
Kolbe had his eyes on the ball the entire time
Jesus Christ 🤦♂️THAT DOESN'T MAKE IT OK!! THATS THE FUCKEN PROBLEM!!
Why not?
It's ludicrously reckless, not to mention bullshit. You can't disregard everyone else's safety just because you want to pretend you can only see the ball. Would certainly make for an interesting lineout as you don't even bother to compete and just get the guy at the front to run through the legs of the jumpers as he can't see them.
You are being absurd now as I try to get to grips with your point.
Do you agree that players can now no longer catch a ball when on the ground?
Is the basic coaching rule of always keep your eye on the ball no longer applicable?Keep your eye on the ball is good advice, but it doesn't trump everything else. Especially if you're running while trying to catch. Doubly especially if you're running towards a spot where there's very likely a guy already in the air.
Does it warrant a red card? Do you really think Kolbe took Murray out?
See I don’t. I think it’s subjective and I fail to see how it coyjd be a red card.
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@majorrage said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions II:
@gibbonrib said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions II:
@majorrage said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions II:
@bones said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions II:
@majorrage said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions II:
@bones said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions II:
@majorrage said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions II:
Kolbe had his eyes on the ball the entire time
Jesus Christ 🤦♂️THAT DOESN'T MAKE IT OK!! THATS THE FUCKEN PROBLEM!!
Why not?
It's ludicrously reckless, not to mention bullshit. You can't disregard everyone else's safety just because you want to pretend you can only see the ball. Would certainly make for an interesting lineout as you don't even bother to compete and just get the guy at the front to run through the legs of the jumpers as he can't see them.
You are being absurd now as I try to get to grips with your point.
Do you agree that players can now no longer catch a ball when on the ground?
Is the basic coaching rule of always keep your eye on the ball no longer applicable?Keep your eye on the ball is good advice, but it doesn't trump everything else. Especially if you're running while trying to catch. Doubly especially if you're running towards a spot where there's very likely a guy already in the air.
Does it warrant a red card? Do you really think Kolbe took Murray out?
See I don’t. I think it’s subjective and I fail to see how it coyjd be a red card.
I'll be honest, I'm not sure what the rules say about that kind of situation now.
My instinctive sense of natural justice says a yellow would be fair, it was reckless and dangerous but IMO not intentional. But if someone more knowledgeable told me that the laws say that's a red, because of the level of danger (and because intent isn't part of the consideration any more because it's too hard to judge) then I'd have no problem with that either.
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@majorrage said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions II:
@bones said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions II:
Be interesting to see what citings come out of this. Itoje? Kolbe?
What did Itoje do?
Was a dickhead ... can't you get cited for that?
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@nzzp said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions II:
wow, did not see that second half comign from the SA team. Forwards really stepped up; driving a maul 30 m is bloody impressive.
Been an absolutely arm wrestle of a series. Last week the rub of teh green went teh way of the Lions, and they squeaked home. This week, it went the other way - and the dominance just built. Very interesting; maybe coming in underdone is smart for the Bokke.
So, after teh biggest game between RWC today, we get treated to another one next weekend. Can't wait, will be great fun.
Kolbe was so stupid. Why the hell do people run into that space- they know it's forbidden. That said, probably a yellow.
Faf was lucky that tackle didn't get looked at, and that' he's short. If Eben does that, he's walking off the park I reckon.
Overall, a really fun tight tussle. I've found it engrossing. Thought BOK had one of his better games. That could have really kicked off, and he made clear decisions and communicated tehm well. Someone said 'he reffed the way World Rugby would want him to', adn I reckon they nailed it. Plenty of whistle, but hard to argue with msot of the decisions.
Roll on next week!
This all of this.
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@catogrande said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions II:
@booboo said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions II:
@mikethesnow said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions II:
Ben is out of his depth
Frankly I thought he handled it well
Agreed. Not the best reffing display I’ve seen, but a long way from the worst and in a very charged atmosphere too. He did ok IMO.
I thought he did really well when interacting with the TMO. Let the TMO choose the angles and the replays but took responsibility for the decisions and defused any issues with Jonker being a Saffa.
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@majorrage said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions II:
@bones said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions II:
@majorrage said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions II:
@bones said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions II:
@majorrage said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions II:
@bones said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions II:
@majorrage said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions II:
Kolbe had his eyes on the ball the entire time
Jesus Christ 🤦♂️THAT DOESN'T MAKE IT OK!! THATS THE FUCKEN PROBLEM!!
Why not?
It's ludicrously reckless, not to mention bullshit. You can't disregard everyone else's safety just because you want to pretend you can only see the ball. Would certainly make for an interesting lineout as you don't even bother to compete and just get the guy at the front to run through the legs of the jumpers as he can't see them.
You are being absurd now as I try to get to grips with your point.
Do you agree that players can now no longer catch a ball when on the ground?
Is the basic coaching rule of always keep your eye on the ball no longer applicable?Excuse me? I'm being absurd? You're the one saying you should be allowed to recklessly take players out as long as you pretend you could only see the ball and nothing else.
Righto.
Yes, you are being absurd. And now, obtuse.
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@pakman said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions II:
@nta said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions II:
I'm not a BOK fan but think he did alright
16 of them on the field!
At least. Don't forget Rassie.
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@nta said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions II:
@pakman said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions II:
@nta said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions II:
I'm not a BOK fan but think he did alright
16 of them on the field!
At least. Don't forget Rassie.
17!
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@pakman said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions II:
Sunday Times has Lions tight five outplaying Boks. Walrus gives Etzebeth ‘4K’ and call him overrated.
Only ratings which seem half decent are Rugby Pass.
Firstly, what does '4K' mean?
Secondly, Elizabeth is playing scary good rugby IMO.
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@booboo said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions II:
@pakman said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions II:
Sunday Times has Lions tight five outplaying Boks. Walrus gives Etzebeth ‘4K’ and call him overrated.
Only ratings which seem half decent are Rugby Pass.
Firstly, what does '4K' mean?
Secondly, Elizabeth is playing scary good rugby IMO.
Fat fingers: 4 out of 10.
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@mikethesnow said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions II:
@bovidae said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions II:
@catogrande said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions II:
In the backs, we have issues at 9 & 10 and I think the choice of 10 would dictate who plays at 9. I’d like to see Smith with Price but we won’t. Aki for Henshaw.
I thought Henshaw was OK but the Harris inclusion didn't work.
Gatland and co needs to decide how they want to play and select accordingly.
As you were then
No Plan B for Gats
It is Plan B, Warrenball Reloaded
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Sinckler cited for biting.
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@antipodean said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions II:
Sinckler cited for biting.
If they've got anything like half decent footage, he's totally fucked.
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This series is horrible as an advertisement for rugby.
Aerial bombardments and blokes running in to each other. Long games. Endless whinging about the refs. Professional rugby at its absolute worst.
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@mariner4life said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions II:
This series is horrible as an advertisement for rugby.
Aerial bombardments and blokes running in to each other. Long games. Endless whinging about the refs. Professional rugby at its absolute worst.
Hopefully this makes WR sit up and take notice that the preeminent fixture in the calendar outside the RWC looks like this: The best players from Home Nations and the World Champions are playing this way, with these officials bringing the game into disrepute.
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@antipodean said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions II:
@mariner4life said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions II:
This series is horrible as an advertisement for rugby.
Aerial bombardments and blokes running in to each other. Long games. Endless whinging about the refs. Professional rugby at its absolute worst.
Hopefully this makes WR sit up and take notice that the preeminent fixture in the calendar outside the RWC looks like this: The best players from Home Nations and the World Champions are playing this way, with these officials bringing the game into disrepute.
i am not holding my breath
although online chat seems to suggest even the home union supporters think its garbage.
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@catogrande Duanne joined the Springbok squad yesterday. Might play on Saturday. Hendrikse from the Sharks also called up as substitute for Faf.
