Super Rugby 2022
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@chris said in Super Rugby 2022:
@foobanz said in Super Rugby 2022:
@gt12 I think the advantage the Saders have is more in their coaching than their players.
Obviously as a group it's a very talented bunch, but combined with good coaching, means they're hard to beat.
The Blues are coming good now, but had bad coaching for years. Canes the opposite, we're getting worse even though I would argue our playing group (and depth) is better now than it has been in a long while.
Great point,The Crusaders had a AB laden squad in the Todd Blackadder coached days and we couldn't win shit for years under that coaching Regime.
In one year the ref stole it from you, and in one year the Earthquake happened. Those are two years when bad luck screwed things up.
I'm also not sure that during those times, the Saders didn't have so many first choice players in comparison to other teams.
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@gt12 said in Super Rugby 2022:
@chris said in Super Rugby 2022:
@foobanz said in Super Rugby 2022:
@gt12 I think the advantage the Saders have is more in their coaching than their players.
Obviously as a group it's a very talented bunch, but combined with good coaching, means they're hard to beat.
The Blues are coming good now, but had bad coaching for years. Canes the opposite, we're getting worse even though I would argue our playing group (and depth) is better now than it has been in a long while.
Great point,The Crusaders had a AB laden squad in the Todd Blackadder coached days and we couldn't win shit for years under that coaching Regime.
In one year the ref stole it from you, and in one year the Earthquake happened. Those are two years when bad luck screwed things up.
I'm also not sure that during those times, the Saders didn't have so many first choice players in comparison to other teams.
I am not so sure we have this amazing depth you are talking about compared to other teams the Blues and Chiefs look to have great depth.
Sure we have depth at Lock,Outside backs and HB.really our back up LF's are Gardner and Kellow only 21, one has not even played NPC. Kellow debuting in SR off the bench this week.
Our back up Props are all are 21 Williams,Newell and Brewis with not much experience.
Burke with not much SR, backs up Ritchie Mounga.with Simon Hickey as the other back up.I haven't seen much of Hickey but quite a few bagged him on SF so I don't have a lot of faith in Hickey.
We have Punivai and McLeod as back up MF players not much to write up there.
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@gt12 said in Super Rugby 2022:
I think coaching is important, but if you look at who they can leave out versus what the Landers can put out, it's clear that there is something a bit off.
I've always maintained that it's player depth in 23-33 that makes the differnece, and the Crusaders have had better players there. Aligns with your comment, but if you want a professional outfit, solid coaching and a winning culture, it's hard to find that consistently anywhere else. Then the rich get richer, and the comp (particularly a diluted comp) isn't as exciting.
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@chris said in Super Rugby 2022:
@gt12 said in Super Rugby 2022:
@chris said in Super Rugby 2022:
@foobanz said in Super Rugby 2022:
@gt12 I think the advantage the Saders have is more in their coaching than their players.
Obviously as a group it's a very talented bunch, but combined with good coaching, means they're hard to beat.
The Blues are coming good now, but had bad coaching for years. Canes the opposite, we're getting worse even though I would argue our playing group (and depth) is better now than it has been in a long while.
Great point,The Crusaders had a AB laden squad in the Todd Blackadder coached days and we couldn't win shit for years under that coaching Regime.
In one year the ref stole it from you, and in one year the Earthquake happened. Those are two years when bad luck screwed things up.
I'm also not sure that during those times, the Saders didn't have so many first choice players in comparison to other teams.
I am not so sure we have this amazing depth you are talking about compared to other teams the Blues and Chiefs look to have great depth.
Sure we have depth at Lock,Outside backs and HB.really our back up LF's are Gardner and Kellow only 21, one has not even played NPC. Kellow debuting in SR off the bench this week.
Our back up Props are all are 21 Williams,Newell and Brewis with not much experience.
Burke with not much SR, backs up Ritchie Mounga.with Simon Hickey as the other back up.I haven't seen much of Hickey but quite a few bagged him on SF so I don't have a lot of faith in Hickey.
We have Punivai and McLeod as back up MF players not much to write up there.
Agree. Crusader depth is not what it once was. Been that way for at least a couple of years now.
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@crazy-horse said in Super Rugby 2022:
@chris said in Super Rugby 2022:
@gt12 said in Super Rugby 2022:
@chris said in Super Rugby 2022:
@foobanz said in Super Rugby 2022:
@gt12 I think the advantage the Saders have is more in their coaching than their players.
Obviously as a group it's a very talented bunch, but combined with good coaching, means they're hard to beat.
The Blues are coming good now, but had bad coaching for years. Canes the opposite, we're getting worse even though I would argue our playing group (and depth) is better now than it has been in a long while.
Great point,The Crusaders had a AB laden squad in the Todd Blackadder coached days and we couldn't win shit for years under that coaching Regime.
In one year the ref stole it from you, and in one year the Earthquake happened. Those are two years when bad luck screwed things up.
I'm also not sure that during those times, the Saders didn't have so many first choice players in comparison to other teams.
I am not so sure we have this amazing depth you are talking about compared to other teams the Blues and Chiefs look to have great depth.
Sure we have depth at Lock,Outside backs and HB.really our back up LF's are Gardner and Kellow only 21, one has not even played NPC. Kellow debuting in SR off the bench this week.
Our back up Props are all are 21 Williams,Newell and Brewis with not much experience.
Burke with not much SR, backs up Ritchie Mounga.with Simon Hickey as the other back up.I haven't seen much of Hickey but quite a few bagged him on SF so I don't have a lot of faith in Hickey.
We have Punivai and McLeod as back up MF players not much to write up there.
Agree. Crusader depth is not what it once was. Been that way for at least a couple of years now.
I think teams like the Blues have better coaching and good systems in place,So players see them and the Chiefs as just as good place as anywhere to get into the AB's, where that wasn't always the case.
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@kiwiwomble said in Super Rugby 2022:
loose 2-4 games and you might as well give up
Hopefully the eight team playoffs will improve that factor.
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As NZ Covid restrictions are confusing.
Does phase 3 now help SR teams as they are heading home.
For A player who tests positive it will not now mean other members of the squad will not have to isolate as a close contact ?, unless they are staying in the same household.
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@chris said in Super Rugby 2022:
As NZ Covid restrictions are confusing.
Does phase 3 now help SR teams as they are heading home.
For A player who tests positive it will not now mean other members of the squad will not have to isolate as a close contact ?, unless they are staying in the same household.
Or have I got the that all wrong ?.Bang on, that's about it more or less.
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@chris said in Super Rugby 2022:
As NZ Covid restrictions are confusing.
Does phase 3 now help SR teams as they are heading home.
For A player who tests positive it will not now mean other members of the squad will not have to isolate as a close contact ?, unless they are staying in the same household.
Or have I got the that all wrong ?.Unless they are living with or similar, so if you were sharing a hotel room or are flatmates, you'll have to iso with test on day 5 and 8
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@dan54 said in Super Rugby 2022:
@chris said in Super Rugby 2022:
As NZ Covid restrictions are confusing.
Does phase 3 now help SR teams as they are heading home.
For A player who tests positive it will not now mean other members of the squad will not have to isolate as a close contact ?, unless they are staying in the same household.
Or have I got the that all wrong ?.Bang on, that's about it more or less.
Thanks Mate
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@machpants said in Super Rugby 2022:
@chris said in Super Rugby 2022:
As NZ Covid restrictions are confusing.
Does phase 3 now help SR teams as they are heading home.
For A player who tests positive it will not now mean other members of the squad will not have to isolate as a close contact ?, unless they are staying in the same household.
Or have I got the that all wrong ?.Unless they are living with or similar, so if you were sharing a hotel room or are flatmates, you'll have to iso with test on day 5 and 8
Awesome thanks Mate
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@machpants said in Super Rugby 2022:
@chris said in Super Rugby 2022:
As NZ Covid restrictions are confusing.
Does phase 3 now help SR teams as they are heading home.
For A player who tests positive it will not now mean other members of the squad will not have to isolate as a close contact ?, unless they are staying in the same household.
Or have I got the that all wrong ?.Unless they are living with or similar, so if you were sharing a hotel room or are flatmates, you'll have to iso with test on day 5 and 8
Usually the out of town squaddies group together in flats so maybe a risk of 2-3 out at a time.
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We're heading home for Super Rugby clash with Chiefs — Blues Rugby
The Blues are coming home to rugby’s spiritual home of Eden Park next week. After a month in a bubble in Queenstown, the Blues are set to take on neighbours the Chiefs at Eden Park next Saturday, 5 March in the third round of the DHL Super Rugby Pacific competition.
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@machpants maybe we will get to see them up here, albeit likely in an empty Okara Park.
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@taniwharugby said in Super Rugby 2022:
@machpants maybe we will get to see them up here, albeit likely in an empty Okara Park.
How many 100 person bubbles through different doors?
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@machpants I'll happily sit on the grass somewhere, social distanced from everyone.
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@taniwharugby said in Super Rugby 2022:
@machpants I'll happily sit on the grass somewhere, social distanced from everyone.
Me too, apart from Mr C Bin, and his contents
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Paul Cully selects his NZ team of the week
15 Will Jordan (Crusaders)
14 Sevu Reece (Crusaders)
13 Bailyn Sullivan (Hurricanes)
12 Roger Tuivasa-Sheck (Blues)
11 Salesi Rayasi (Hurricanes)
10 Mitch Hunt (Highlanders)
9 Aaron Smith (Highlanders)
8 Ardie Savea (Hurricanes)
7 Adrian Choat (Blues)
6 Shannon Frizell (Highlanders)
5 Josh Goodhue (Blues)
4 Scott Barrett (Crusaders)
3 Oli Jager (Crusaders)
2 Kurt Eklund (Blues)
1 Alex Hodgman (Blues)
