All Blacks vs Fiji
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
yeah certainly feels like they have gone back on thier stance on head contact, which did border on ridiculous to now ridiculous they arent being looked at properly
from the bizarre to the ridiculous
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@kev guess the thing is, Dmac is already a lower target, he was low before the guy even lined him up...ideally he doesnt cop a ban because he is a good player, but in reality, I cant see how he doesnt get a break.
It’s a hard one. These things happen so quickly. DMAC got up with no problems which would say despite how he looks he didn’t actually catch him. Like you say, he might get time.
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@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@kev said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@stargazer said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@kev Last camera angle shows direct contact with the head. Dmac lowering body position is mitigation. I think it should have been a yellow.
My main thing was initial contact was body to body and he didn’t aim high. Mixed thoughts - protect the player, but for me it was a great dominant tackle. That’s what Rugby is about.
Process is pretty clear though - head contact, high degree of danger, it's red or maaaybe yellow. World Rugby are trying to take these hits out of the game,a nd putting the responsibility on teh tackler. It's only going to work if people actually believe that anyone who goes high is going to get pinged - otherwise the risk/reward is unbalanced.
It's ... just that they don't seem to care to apply their own framework.
On a second or third look it looks like he is attempting to go low into the tackle, DMac makes it look worse by hesitating and trying to change direction or brace for the impact
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@daffy-jaffy said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@tj Dumb ass Religious anti vacc influence sadly -
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/300354390/its-a-tragedy-fijian-team-ditches-plan-to-wear-vaccinate-jerseys-against-all-blacksThat's a shocker. Way to get in your sponsors bad books too.
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@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@kev said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@stargazer said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@kev Last camera angle shows direct contact with the head. Dmac lowering body position is mitigation. I think it should have been a yellow.
My main thing was initial contact was body to body and he didn’t aim high. Mixed thoughts - protect the player, but for me it was a great dominant tackle. That’s what Rugby is about.
Process is pretty clear though - head contact, high degree of danger, it's red or maaaybe yellow. World Rugby are trying to take these hits out of the game,a nd putting the responsibility on teh tackler. It's only going to work if people actually believe that anyone who goes high is going to get pinged - otherwise the risk/reward is unbalanced.
It's ... just that they don't seem to care to apply their own framework.
Every Fijian tackle has a very high degree of danger
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@rancid-schnitzel At least we'd be past Foster by now if he did?
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@nevorian said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@kev said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@stargazer said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@kev Last camera angle shows direct contact with the head. Dmac lowering body position is mitigation. I think it should have been a yellow.
My main thing was initial contact was body to body and he didn’t aim high. Mixed thoughts - protect the player, but for me it was a great dominant tackle. That’s what Rugby is about.
Process is pretty clear though - head contact, high degree of danger, it's red or maaaybe yellow. World Rugby are trying to take these hits out of the game,a nd putting the responsibility on teh tackler. It's only going to work if people actually believe that anyone who goes high is going to get pinged - otherwise the risk/reward is unbalanced.
It's ... just that they don't seem to care to apply their own framework.
On a second or third look it looks like he is attempting to go low into the tackle, DMac makes it look worse by hesitating and trying to change direction or brace for the impact
I don't agree. DMAc's body height doesn't change appreciably from the picture the tackler sees before committing. He sees Damien is low and launches at him, hitting him high.
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
We don't know who our wings are,
That guy who's scored 8 tries in 115 minutes might be worth another go?
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After seeing 2 games I would select this team for the RC
D Mac
Jordan
Reiko
ALB
Havilli
Mounga
Smith
Akira
Blackadder
Dalton P
Whitelock
Retallick
Ofa T. Hopefully fit
Moodey hoping he’s recovered
ColesBench
Taylor
Karl T
Laulalu
Barrett
Savea
Christie never thought I would say that
BB
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@daffy-jaffy said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@tj said Just realised, weren't they meant to have 'vaccinate Fiji' on their jerseys?
Dumb ass Religious anti vacc influence sadly -
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/300354390/its-a-tragedy-fijian-team-ditches-plan-to-wear-vaccinate-jerseys-against-all-blacksThat's sad really.
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@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@nevorian said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
Haha Christie that was classic
he got to rucks quickly and cleared quickly. Looked good, and made people around him look good. More please
No he looked pretty sharp I was referring to the quick tap where he bounced off the Fijian guy
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All of you worriers and panic merchants, we are clearly keeping our powder dry
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@african-monkey just seems like that number 6 jersey has been vacated ever since Kaino retired …It just goes to show despite Frizell looking the part at super level , that step really is another level
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@act-crusader No one's going to see us coming for the 2107 world cup!
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@steven-harris said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
It just goes to show despite Frizell looking the part at super level , that step really is another level
That much was obvious last year.
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@steven-harris said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@african-monkey just seems like that number 6 jersey has been vacated ever since Kaino retired …It just goes to show despite Frizell looking the part at super level , that step really is another level
Is it too late to get Vaea Fifita back ?
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@act-crusader said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
@steven-harris said in All Blacks vs Fiji:
Really enjoyed this contest ,seeing another repeat of last week would have done nothing for anyone..
Fiji really bought it physically showing the benefits of many of their forwards especially playing in France and Europe in general but I suspect being stuck in isolation and lack preparation finally told especially in and around breakdown accuracy and discipline..All Blacks looked better when both Whitelock and Coles were on the field ..but in terms of consistency I thought Ethan Blackadder playing in the unfamiliar jersey was very solid ..biggest disappointments to me where Sotutu,Tuipulotu and Frizzell..Agree on those three. Also thought Taylor lacked accuracy and the starting two props looked lost out there too.
This! Absolutely this. We have to start developing props that can be successful at set piece and contribute around the field.
