RWC 2027 in Australia
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@Derpus said in RWC 2027 in Australia:
@antipodean I thought I was supposed to be the miserable fluffybunny.
we've got real problems if there is only supposed to be one on here
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@Kiwiwomble said in RWC 2027 in Australia:
@mariner4life yeah, not oblivious to the fact your miles from the pitch and its melbourne
world cup final so mean they "fill" it but still wont be as easy as sydney...and althought your a long way from the pitch ive always found even the top deck at the MCG has a great view
It's a terrible ground to watch rugby but when you consider it fills ~100k and the state of rugby finances in Oz you can see why an extra ~20k in ticket sales appeals
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@Bovidae said in RWC 2027 in Australia:
WR's new plan is for countries to host a men's and women's RWC for each world cup cycle. If you are building or upgrading stadia it makes sense to maximise their use and justify the cost.
@Bovidae said in RWC 2027 in Australia:
WR's new plan is for countries to host a men's and women's RWC for each world cup cycle. If you are building or upgrading stadia it makes sense to maximise their use and justify the cost.
I think it makes sense to double up on hosting. However, the reality is that any country that will be hosting the men's world cup, will have the stadia to host the women's world. I think doubling up is good because you capitalise on the momentum and interest the tournament brings.
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So the format changes to six pools of 4, and a round of 16 before the quarters. That reduces the length of tournament by a week (good thing). WR to take more financial risk with bookings and stuff, so the draw will be closer to kick off, although not confirmed when.
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@Machpants said in RWC 2027 in Australia:
Seems good to me, quite a few teams close in talent on the edge of 20th in the world, and more teams in less time is a good thing, this RWC seemed so long between games with that long week break!
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@nostrildamus said in RWC 2027 in Australia:
@Machpants said in RWC 2027 in Australia:
Seems good to me, quite a few teams close in talent on the edge of 20th in the world, and more teams in less time is a good thing, this RWC seemed so long between games with that long week break!
Glad they have dropped the rest week, it appears
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@Machpants said in RWC 2027 in Australia:
So the format changes to six pools of 4, and a round of 16 before the quarters. That reduces the length of tournament by a week (good thing). WR to take more financial risk with bookings and stuff, so the draw will be closer to kick off, although not confirmed when.
How do they rank the top 16 from 6 pools?
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@booboo said in RWC 2027 in Australia:
@Machpants said in RWC 2027 in Australia:
So the format changes to six pools of 4, and a round of 16 before the quarters. That reduces the length of tournament by a week (good thing). WR to take more financial risk with bookings and stuff, so the draw will be closer to kick off, although not confirmed when.
How do they rank the top 16 from 6 pools?
Top 2 from each pool, plus 4 best 3rd place finishers.
It'll be messy, and a but arbitrary - there will probably be 6 teams on 1 win and 2 defeats, so it'll likely be the ones who piled on a stack of tries against the bottom team in the pool that will go through.
The bigger problem with the format, IMO, is that at the quarterfinal stage you'll have 6 pool winners. So that means 2 will get a relatively easy draw against a pool runner up, and the other 4 pool winners will play each other. A lot will come down to the luck of the draw.
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I like the reduction to 4 teams in the pool - 3 matches is enough, and it wont take a month.
But the unevenness of the knockout stages will be annoying.
I know this for sure because I grew up watching football as well as rugby, and this is the exact same format that was used for the 86/90/94 World Cups.
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@KiwiMurph said in RWC 2027 in Australia:
I can't believe we've got to wait 2 more years to find out who else Wales, Fiji and Australia have in our pool.
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@GibbonRib said in RWC 2027 in Australia:
@booboo said in RWC 2027 in Australia:
@Machpants said in RWC 2027 in Australia:
So the format changes to six pools of 4, and a round of 16 before the quarters. That reduces the length of tournament by a week (good thing). WR to take more financial risk with bookings and stuff, so the draw will be closer to kick off, although not confirmed when.
How do they rank the top 16 from 6 pools?
Top 2 from each pool, plus 4 best 3rd place finishers.
It'll be messy, and a but arbitrary - there will probably be 6 teams on 1 win and 2 defeats, so it'll likely be the ones who piled on a stack of tries against the bottom team in the pool that will go through.
The bigger problem with the format, IMO, is that at the quarterfinal stage you'll have 6 pool winners. So that means 2 will get a relatively easy draw against a pool runner up, and the other 4 pool winners will play each other. A lot will come down to the luck of the draw.
Like every RWC to date
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On Current rankings, the pools could look something like:
Pool A:
South Africa
Japan
Portugal
Hong KongPool B:
New Zealand
Italy
Georgia
CanadaPool
Ireland
Fiji
Samoa
ChilePool
France
Australia
Tonga
NamibiaPool E:
England
Wales
Uruguay
NamibiaPool F:
Scotland
Argentina
USA
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@Machpants said in RWC 2027 in Australia:
@KiwiMurph said in RWC 2027 in Australia:
2025 autumn internationals get a bit more status
Right after Lions Tour
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I just had a go at this, cos it's RWC Final week, and fuck work, right?
Here is my bracket - it assumes current rankings, on the basis that we beat SA this week (shoot me), and assumes everyone performs in the RWC true to that ranking.
I didn't do the 3rd and 4th in each pool by the law, just kept allocating lower ranked teams to higher ranked teams, if that makes sense - so it might not be 100% right
I can't see any outcome too egregious - sure Wales and Australia might disagree with meeting each other in the R of 16, but it is what it is
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@MiketheSnow said in RWC 2027 in Australia:
@Machpants said in RWC 2027 in Australia:
@KiwiMurph said in RWC 2027 in Australia:
2025 autumn internationals get a bit more status
Right after Lions Tour
Stil Nov internationals after that, and Lions don't effect rankings.
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@Machpants said in RWC 2027 in Australia:
So the format changes to six pools of 4, and a round of 16 before the quarters. That reduces the length of tournament by a week (good thing).
This reduces it by a week compared to the current format (2023) with the bye week.
But, It would be the same length as the 2019, 15, 11, 07 etc format.
It is 6 weeks. 44 days.