Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final
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@bovidae said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
This is what Stuff thinks. As I said above, CdG is likely to be spelled after a long time off with injury and a short turn-around between tests.
Black Caps (likely): Tom Latham (captain), Devon Conway, Will Young, Ross Taylor, Henry Nicholls, BJ Watling, Daryl Mitchell, Kyle Jamieson/Tim Southee/Matt Henry, Neil Wagner, Ajaz Patel, Trent Boult.
Hopefully Ajaz gets a 5 for to show what a real spinner could do
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@canefan said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@bovidae said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
This is what Stuff thinks. As I said above, CdG is likely to be spelled after a long time off with injury and a short turn-around between tests.
Black Caps (likely): Tom Latham (captain), Devon Conway, Will Young, Ross Taylor, Henry Nicholls, BJ Watling, Daryl Mitchell, Kyle Jamieson/Tim Southee/Matt Henry, Neil Wagner, Ajaz Patel, Trent Boult.
Hopefully Ajaz gets a 5 for to show what a real spinner could do
If he does I’d be thrilled but then given we’re not going to go into a big test without our four main pace bowlers then that automatically lengthens the tail given Jamieson would bat seven, fern fall guy ( when it comes to batting ) Southee at eight and so on.
Patel doesn’t seem much of a batsman…….but then again ( insert any other NZ spinner here ) doesn’t seem much of a spinner so you have to sacrifice something I guess.
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@bovidae said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
This is what Stuff thinks. As I said above, CdG is likely to be spelled after a long time off with injury and a short turn-around between tests.
Black Caps (likely): Tom Latham (captain), Devon Conway, Will Young, Ross Taylor, Henry Nicholls, BJ Watling, Daryl Mitchell, Kyle Jamieson/Tim Southee/Matt Henry, Neil Wagner, Ajaz Patel, Trent Boult.
I would have thought that a player with a long time off with injury would need the match time? Maybe he still has a niggle.
As for the other / bowlers. I reckon Jamieson gets the nod. One more game for match experience and we will want him for the final. Southee knows what he is doing so a break may not be a bad thing. Henry is a good player but hopefully not needed for WTC as the others are better.
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@snowy said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@bovidae said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
This is what Stuff thinks. As I said above, CdG is likely to be spelled after a long time off with injury and a short turn-around between tests.
Black Caps (likely): Tom Latham (captain), Devon Conway, Will Young, Ross Taylor, Henry Nicholls, BJ Watling, Daryl Mitchell, Kyle Jamieson/Tim Southee/Matt Henry, Neil Wagner, Ajaz Patel, Trent Boult.
I would have thought that a player with a long time off with injury would need the match time? Maybe he still has a niggle.
As for the other / bowlers. I reckon Jamieson gets the nod. One more game for match experience and we will want him for the final. Southee knows what he is doing so a break may not be a bad thing. Henry is a good player but hopefully not needed for WTC as the others are better.
Yep, needs more time in English conditions to acquaint himself.
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@snowy said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
I would have thought that a player with a long time off with injury would need the match time? Maybe he still has a niggle.
I read that CdG visibly tired over the duration of the test so probably not match-fit. Best to let him recover if that is true.
I would select Jamieson too.
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To even be having these discussions is such a treat. Good players are going to be left out, rotated, rested. Never in my life did I think that I would say that.
In the past we were lucky to have a couple of competent bowlers, sometimes one great one, that were even fit to walk to the ground. If we had good bowlers they were usually broken and the whole attack was weak.
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@bovidae said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@snowy said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
I would have thought that a player with a long time off with injury would need the match time? Maybe he still has a niggle.
I read that CdG visibly tired over the duration of the test so probably not match-fit. Best to let him recover if that is true.
I would select Jamieson too.
Gotcha re CDG. He could be what we need in the WTC. Just that game breaker type. Whether it be golden arm or smashing it out of the park. Fully expecting Southampton to be as spin friendly as they can make it.
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I’d almost be tempted to pick Ravindra as our spinner and to bat 7. I don’t see any of our spinners eventually troubling the Indians much, so we may as well have someone who can score some runs at the same time. (Even Raval looked more threatening in Oz with the ball than Satnav.)
Though I do like Ajaz, he always looks so genuinely excited to be playing for the Black Caps.
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@donsteppa said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
I’d almost be tempted to pick Ravindra as our spinner and to bat 7. I don’t see any of our spinners eventually troubling the Indians much, so we may as well have someone who can score some runs at the same time. (Even Raval looked more threatening in Oz with the ball than Satnav.)
Though I do like Ajaz, he always looks so genuinely excited to be playing for the Black Caps.
That was the point I was going to come in and make. The Indians are pros at playing spin and we don't have any that would really trouble them, so I'd rather just go all out seam which is our strength. Don't give them any respite by chucking on a spinner that's not even half as good as they are used to playing on a pitch that won't be overly conducive to spin.
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@no-quarter said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
Don't give them any respite by chucking on a spinner that's not even half as good as they are used to playing on a pitch that won't be overly conducive to spin.
So you think that we will pick a spinner then.
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@snowy said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@no-quarter said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
Don't give them any respite by chucking on a spinner that's not even half as good as they are used to playing on a pitch that won't be overly conducive to spin.
So you think that we will pick a spinner then.
I think Santner was a certainty for "balance". Now he's out I really hope we take another seamer.
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So did England drop Anderson for his homophobic tweets or what?
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From Cricinfo - BJ Watling has been ruled out of this Test match with a sore back, that he hasn't recovered from. Tom Blundell will replace him with the gloves.
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@no-quarter said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@snowy said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@no-quarter said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
Don't give them any respite by chucking on a spinner that's not even half as good as they are used to playing on a pitch that won't be overly conducive to spin.
So you think that we will pick a spinner then.
I think Santner was a certainty for "balance". Now he's out I really hope we take another seamer.
True, his lack of ability certainly balances the rest of the team
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@daffy-jaffy said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
From Cricinfo - BJ Watling has been ruled out of this Test match with a sore back, that he hasn't recovered from. Tom Blundell will replace him with the gloves.
Jeez we are stumbling towards the WTC final
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@canefan said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@daffy-jaffy said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
From Cricinfo - BJ Watling has been ruled out of this Test match with a sore back, that he hasn't recovered from. Tom Blundell will replace him with the gloves.
Jeez we are stumbling towards the WTC final
Probably just an abundance of caution.
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@donsteppa said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
I will likely be shouted down for heresy, but I don’t think swapping Blundell in for Watling is as big a step down as it once was - at least batting wise.
Blundell showed in Oz that he has the batting chops to be a real asset
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@donsteppa said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
I will likely be shouted down for heresy, but I don’t think swapping Blundell in for Watling is as big a step down as it once was - at least batting wise.
Not at all, says a lot for the team that our best ever isn’t available but there is an able replacement. Conway, Young AND Blundell are bloody inexperienced though ( but capable )
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England are batting
Here’s our team….. New Zealand: 1 Tom Latham (captain), 2 Devon Conway, 3 Will Young, 4 Ross Taylor, 5 Henry Nicholls, 6 Tom Blundell (wk), 7 Daryl Mitchell, 8 Neil Wagner, 9 Matt Henry, 10 Ajaz Patel, 11 Trent Boult
No Jamieson or Southee winds me up considerably. I don’t think we have THAT much depth to change the team this much.
