Dumbing down of cricket
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@crucial said in Dumbing down of cricket:
@mn5 said in Dumbing down of cricket:
@snowy said in Dumbing down of cricket:
@crucial said in Dumbing down of cricket:
And using your analogy above they will end up in a similar stupid position of measuring fuel consumption in miles per gallon when you buy the fuel in litres.
Has caused more than one aircraft accident / incident. I won't digress on that.
I am interested in why "out", is so much easier to understand than wicket. Just the single syllable I guess. He's "out", "out" where? Lunch? Having a snooze? Concussed?
Did chuckle at this:
"a dumbing down and “Americanisation”Has some implication that one is related to the other.
The other team took a “wicket” and he got “out”.
Both terms are equally used already !
Yeah. The player was run out, given out, adjudged out (although apparently LBW is too hard to understand)
My boy ( 11 this weekend ) will have to come to terms with LBW next season ( they don’t have them until a certain age ) so why can’t the rest of the world grasp it ?
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@MN5 I have some faith that your boy probably already gets it, even if it wasn't used in his previous matches. There's really only 3 things to consider (4 if you include not playing a shot). An edge doesn't count.
Why haven't they gone the whole hog and made 4s and 6s, 5s and 10s? Maths is clearly an issue for most casual cricket watchers.
Will ties be decided by number of boundaries scored too?
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@snowy said in Dumbing down of cricket:
@MN5 I have some faith that your boy probably already gets it, even if it wasn't used in his previous matches. There's really only 3 things to consider (4 if you include not playing a shot). An edge doesn't count.
Why haven't they gone the whole hog and made 4s and 6s, 5s and 10s? Maths is clearly an issue for most casual cricket watchers.
Will ties be decided by number of boundaries scored too?
To be honest it’s the “when you’re out you’re out” that I’m worried about ( currently they bat partnerships and lose runs each time they get dismissed ). His first Golden duck will be a sad time.
I’m all for gradual rules......he started playing cricket at nine and it’s great to ease kids gently into the full game and how it is played but all this clap trap and changes for the sake of adults ? Fuck off.
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Poms are dumb. Aussie are geniuses. Fact.
Aussie invented new term for sub. Called x fact or. 3 syllables.
Poms find wick et too hard.
To simplify the game away from jargon and non-decimals. I count 4 new jargon now introduced in 6 months, a 5th professional version of the sport has been introduced.
Simple as.
Money well spent. I'm sure it's better value than the zero spend of simply not exasperating Dads away from watching as sick of gimmicks and noise. I mean whoever's heard of a kid getting into a sport because their dad was watching it one day when they were young.
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Can’t really be bothered reading it in it’s entirety...
Is this madness just happening in the 100 overs or whatever the hell they’re calling it, or are they trying to bring it in across all formats?
If it’s the former I’ll give zero fucks because I won’t be watching or following.
If it’s the latter, I’m offended and hurt at the uneducated’s lack of understanding or willingness to learn. It’s an outrage and shows no respect to the sacrifice our ancestors made in inventing rules of the gentleman’s game. It’s just so damaging and hurtful. I demand a public apology from someone, anyone will do, and for sports ministers from across the globe to condemn this unacceptable and intolerable behaviour. I also demand a police investigation and an independent review into the organisation who rubber stamped these changes, to make sure they are diverse enough to be a fair representation of the world we live in today. Someone please get a Stuff ‘reporter’ to call me so I can share my outrage with the world?
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@gunner said in Dumbing down of cricket:
Can’t really be bothered reading it in it’s entirety...
Is this madness just happening in the 100 overs or whatever the hell they’re calling it, or are they trying to bring it in across all formats?
If it’s the former I’ll give zero fucks because I won’t be watching or following.
If it’s the former, I’m offended and hurt at the uneducated’s lack of understanding or willingness to learn. It’s an outrage and shows no respect to the sacrifice our ancestors made in inventing rules of the gentleman’s game. It’s just so damaging and hurtful. I demand a public apology from someone, anyone will do, and for sports ministers from across the globe to condemn this unacceptable and intolerable behaviour. I also demand a police investigation and an independent review into the organisation who rubber stamped these changes, to make sure they are diverse enough to be a fair representation of the world we live in today. Someone please get a Stuff ‘reporter’ to call me so I can share my outrage with the world?
I know your post is tongue and cheek, but billions would agree.
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@gunner said in Dumbing down of cricket:
Someone please get a Stuff ‘reporter’ to call me so I can share my outrage with the world?
They will report on "how the world reacts" to your outrage for sure. After all how the world reacts is all that really counts anymore.
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@snowy said in Dumbing down of cricket:
@gunner said in Dumbing down of cricket:
Someone please get a Stuff ‘reporter’ to call me so I can share my outrage with the world?
They will report on "how the world reacts" to your outrage for sure. After all how the world reacts is all that really counts anymore.
.....and any former player who dares mention the wonderful traditions of cricket will be vilified and abused for being an out of touch relic and a dinosaur.
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@mn5 said in Dumbing down of cricket:
@snowy said in Dumbing down of cricket:
@gunner said in Dumbing down of cricket:
Someone please get a Stuff ‘reporter’ to call me so I can share my outrage with the world?
They will report on "how the world reacts" to your outrage for sure. After all how the world reacts is all that really counts anymore.
.....and any former player who dares mention the wonderful traditions of cricket will be vilified and abused for being an out of touch relic and a dinosaur.
Kids love dinosaurs. I thought that was the target market (kids, not dinosaurs although there may be just as many of them actually watching)?
I suppose rugby has 7s, 10s, and 15s. Could throw in the 13s, sort of as well.
However this is cricket, and this is definitely not cricket (as the saying goes chaps).
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T20 already exists. Kids fucking love it.
T20 already exists. Most mums don't. Changing a couple of things here and there to make it "easier" won't change that.
Sometimes i think these things come about because inflated administrative departments need to justify their jobs.
Also the constant chasing of the "growth" unicorn has fucked so many sports.
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@mariner4life That's exactly the point isn't it - we already have it. Reducing it by another 20 balls and changing some words isn't going to make it any better. I think that I have the maths correct there for those that can't cope with multiples of 6.
It's bloody stupid. I'm going to join a marketing dept, one full of people that don't watch sport like this lot obviously don't, and suggest that cricket should be played as 6 aside...sorry that will have to be 10.
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@mn5 said in Dumbing down of cricket:
To be honest it’s the “when you’re out you’re out” that I’m worried about ( currently they bat partnerships and lose runs each time they get dismissed ). His first Golden duck will be a sad time.
It'll be a few years if he's playing in NZ. They have done a great job of easing people in - next year will be something like a 9 ball grace period (and retire after 18 deliveries), and then a 6 ball (retire at 21 balls). Ensures kids actually get a game at the weekend -- a decent bat and bowl each week. Fair play to NZC (and I think Martin Snedden)
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@nzzp said in Dumbing down of cricket:
@mn5 said in Dumbing down of cricket:
To be honest it’s the “when you’re out you’re out” that I’m worried about ( currently they bat partnerships and lose runs each time they get dismissed ). His first Golden duck will be a sad time.
It'll be a few years if he's playing in NZ. They have done a great job of easing people in - next year will be something like a 9 ball grace period (and retire after 18 deliveries), and then a 6 ball (retire at 21 balls). Ensures kids actually get a game at the weekend -- a decent bat and bowl each week. Fair play to NZC (and I think Martin Snedden)
Not what I’ve heard. Any sauce on this ?
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@nzzp said in Dumbing down of cricket:
@mn5 said in Dumbing down of cricket:
To be honest it’s the “when you’re out you’re out” that I’m worried about ( currently they bat partnerships and lose runs each time they get dismissed ). His first Golden duck will be a sad time.
It'll be a few years if he's playing in NZ. They have done a great job of easing people in - next year will be something like a 9 ball grace period (and retire after 18 deliveries), and then a 6 ball (retire at 21 balls). Ensures kids actually get a game at the weekend -- a decent bat and bowl each week. Fair play to NZC (and I think Martin Snedden)
what? fucking snowflake children
The quicker they learn what an absolute fluffybunny of a game cricket is, the better for their mortal soul. It doesn't matter what level you play, or what your form is like, or how much time you spent in the nets, some days you are going to turn up, bowl 10 overs 0-88, and get a 3rd ball duck, and drop a catch. And your dad won't even be there to watch.
Cricket hates you, and you need to learn that as quickly as possible.
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@mn5 said in Dumbing down of cricket:
@nzzp said in Dumbing down of cricket:
@mn5 said in Dumbing down of cricket:
To be honest it’s the “when you’re out you’re out” that I’m worried about ( currently they bat partnerships and lose runs each time they get dismissed ). His first Golden duck will be a sad time.
It'll be a few years if he's playing in NZ. They have done a great job of easing people in - next year will be something like a 9 ball grace period (and retire after 18 deliveries), and then a 6 ball (retire at 21 balls). Ensures kids actually get a game at the weekend -- a decent bat and bowl each week. Fair play to NZC (and I think Martin Snedden)
Not what I’ve heard. Any sauce on this ?
Auckland cricket grades that my son has been playing in.
U12 was 9 ball grace, U13 was 6 (with LBW). Suggest you just check with your local organisation/club. Info for Auckland here (depends on the comp, of course)
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@nzzp said in Dumbing down of cricket:
@mn5 said in Dumbing down of cricket:
@nzzp said in Dumbing down of cricket:
@mn5 said in Dumbing down of cricket:
To be honest it’s the “when you’re out you’re out” that I’m worried about ( currently they bat partnerships and lose runs each time they get dismissed ). His first Golden duck will be a sad time.
It'll be a few years if he's playing in NZ. They have done a great job of easing people in - next year will be something like a 9 ball grace period (and retire after 18 deliveries), and then a 6 ball (retire at 21 balls). Ensures kids actually get a game at the weekend -- a decent bat and bowl each week. Fair play to NZC (and I think Martin Snedden)
Not what I’ve heard. Any sauce on this ?
Auckland cricket grades that my son has been playing in.
U12 was 9 ball grace, U13 was 6 (with LBW). Suggest you just check with your local organisation/club. Info for Auckland here (depends on the comp, of course)
Auckland Cricket
Home of the Aces and Hearts. Find out about club and school cricket in Auckland, draws and results, past stats and all the latest news.
Hmmmmm interesting. As I understand it it’s basically full adult rules as of October/November. In the last few games myself and the co coaches really focussed on getting them playing forward defensive strokes in readiness for next season which can’t be a bad thing.
It’s pretty tenuous to assume I ever played one of these in my playing days, but then again we live in a world where Luke Ronchi became a Black Caps batting coach so anything is possible.
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@mn5 said in Dumbing down of cricket:
@sparky said in Dumbing down of cricket:
What I don't get in all this is the ECB's obsession with chasing a potential new audience for Cricket ahead of the millions of fans who know and love the game.
I’m no expert but I’d say over a billion Indians contribute a fair bit to a game that ain’t broke and doesn’t need fixing.
How many of that ‘billion’ have started watching cricket because of the emergence of IPL. I’d hazard a guess at the odd hundred million or so...
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@act-crusader said in Dumbing down of cricket:
@mn5 said in Dumbing down of cricket:
@sparky said in Dumbing down of cricket:
What I don't get in all this is the ECB's obsession with chasing a potential new audience for Cricket ahead of the millions of fans who know and love the game.
I’m no expert but I’d say over a billion Indians contribute a fair bit to a game that ain’t broke and doesn’t need fixing.
How many of that ‘billion’ have started watching cricket because of the emergence of IPL. I’d hazard a guess at the odd hundred million or so...
Difficult to know, but I worked with loads of Indian cabin crew (many hundreds if not thousands), mostly female, pre IPL. They all knew their cricket, had a complete disdain for the Craps (and they were crap then, even though we beat India some of the time.) They were just as knowledgeable about tests as ODIs and were just as willing to enter a debate about players as we are on here. Indians will fill cricket grounds and watch it on TB no matter what. It's not like they have too many other internationally competitive teams, or sports people for that matter.
