Super Rugby Women's Competition
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@stargazer said in Super Rugby Women's Competition:
@crucial It really doesn't prove your point. You're only focusing on the Otago players and Matatū, but look at the lack of players from Hawke's Bay in the Hurricanes squad (only one!), as well as the the fact that there are - for example - two Northland players in the Blues squad, but also one in the Hurricanes and one in the Chiefs.
The spread of players over other franchises is due to the draft system they used.
I did say way back in the thread that I feared this comp would go the way of early versions of the men's super where you had a better chance if you played for the 'home' union. Whether that is from logistics, player time demands and travel or whatever I was fairly sure that the Chiefs may be the only side with a spread across the Unions.
Yes, I am focusing on the situation in the south but do realise that other non franchise teams cop it as well. We have heard the HB, Northland and Naki complaints for years and nothing has changed.
@kiwiwomble said in Super Rugby Women's Competition:
@Crucial it would have been cool to be more representative of the whole SI, but i think its a bit of a chicken and egg situation, they couldn't provide pathways before now but they also need to make the team successful enough as to secure the future, so now we have a team hopefully more players from Otago and Ta$man will see this as something to aim for
I don't think it shows much incentive at all. It shows that unless you fill a positional need for Canterbury you will have to target the draft. In the long term aims that wasn't the idea. This concept is meant to show clear pathways for all womens rugby not say to players that the pathways are there if you move to Chch, Auckland or Wellington.
Chiefs may have the advantage of more depth in the region but their squad looks like they have exhausted the region's players first before looking outside. -
@crucial i see it as a bit different, the team is there now and they have selected some Otago players, i don't think they needed to select loads to prove they will, there is still a need for players in Otago to earn their spot
I dont know enough about the individual players to be able to point out Otago players that should have been selected over canterbury ones, i might have a different opinion if i did
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I will add, this is why im really happy they are using a very different brand to any of the existing super or NPC ones, i can treat Matatū like a proper Rep team, like when i can support crusaders players when playing for the AB's
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@kiwiwomble said in Super Rugby Women's Competition:
@crucial i see it as a bit different, the team is there now and they have selected some Otago players, i don't think they needed to select loads to prove they will, there is still a need for players in Otago to earn their spot
I dont know enough about the individual players to be able to point out Otago players that should have been selected over canterbury ones, i might have a different opinion if i did
I don't disagree. As 'should be picked' the same Otago players I would expect to see are selected for the comp.
I guess that the different view I am coming from is highlighted by a player like Joseph. Still developing but with immense promise and maybe still not confirmed as whether a 9 or 10. Matatū have stated that they don't have depth at 10 and who knows how much longer Cocksedge will play for them. Exactly the type of player that they need to grab for the future alongside having experienced options as starters. She would be the signal for other young players to aspire to being part of the franchise and show the path. -
@crucial I can only assume that Matatū would have picked Joseph if the Chiefs hadn't already picked her in the draft.
By the way, I understand from the Matatū media release that the addition of the two Wallaroos players is due to lack of depth at lock and first-five in the SI, and probably NZ.
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@bovidae Yeah, I was wondering what is going on here, too.
IIRC, franchises had first picks from their catchment (not sure how many players), and the rest would be picked via a draft. Maybe the players who've come in via the draft are "flexible" allocations? It's weird.
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@bovidae I don't think it affects the integrity of the comp, if it happens before the start of preseason. I also suspect this has a lot to do with the preparation of the World Cup; maybe the BFs coaches think she'll get more playing opportunities with Matatū? Things may go differently, next year.
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https://www.chiefs.co.nz/news-item/waitomo-chiefs-manawa-announced-as-new-identity-for-womens-team
Chiefs women team officially announced as "Chiefs Manawa." New jersey also shown off in the article.
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Tyla Nathan-Wong released to play for nib Blues — Blues Rugby
Superlative Sevens star Tyla Nathan-Wong will join the nib Blues team for next year’s Super Rugby Aupiki competition. The 27-year-old Sevens superstar has been granted a clearance from the Black Ferns Sevens to compete in the historic first women’s Super-level competition in New Zealand.
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I'll put this here, since the thread is live
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https://www.chiefs.co.nz/news-item/waitomo-chiefs-manawa-confirm-coaching-group-for-2022
2022 Chiefs Manawa Management
Head Coach: Allan Bunting
Assistant Coach: Crystal Kaua
Assistant Coach: Rodney Gibbs
Manager: Gareth Duncan
Doctor: Deb Robinson
Physio : Sian Northy
Strength and Conditioning Coach: Nick Marquet
Video: Leah Dickey -
Super Rugby Aupiki draw
Round One
Saturday 5 March
Blues v Chiefs Manawa, Eden Park, kick off 1:45pmSunday 6 March
Matatū v Hurricanes, Orangetheory Stadium, kick off 3:45pmRound Two
Saturday 12 March
Hurricanes v Blues, Sky Stadium, kick off 1:45pmSunday 13 March
Chiefs Manawa v Matatū, FMG Stadium, kick off 3:45pmRound Three - Super Round - FMG Stadium
Saturday 19 March
Blues v Matatū, kick off 1:45pm
Chiefs Manawa v Hurricanes, kick off 4:35pmFINAL
Saturday 26 or Sunday 27 Marchhttps://www.allblacks.com/news/sky-super-rugby-aupiki-set-to-light-up-rugby-landscape-in-march/
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dont hate it but the badge really blends into the jersey
